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nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
I don't doubt this is true. But there are far more experiments showing bias in favor of white men. One comes from orchestra auditions where blind auditions worked against white men.
Hilarious, but there are actual studies that show we will gravitate toward our in-groups, even if those groups are completely fabricated by the researchers. Humans want to belong to a group, and will look for similarities in the people around them.
This doesn’t disprove anything. It can absolutely be true that there are more high-qualified candidates belonging to the majority group *and* that candidates of the minority group can be discriminated against due to biases in the hiring process.
You also seem to look at diversity much like some people on the left do, which is that diversity is pushed simply for the sake of diversity. In reality, diversity in society/government/the workplace leads to diversity of thought and experience that can strengthen the whole.
Are you high? How does that logically follow from what I said in any way?
I… agreed with you? I don’t think many that push DEI initiatives do so for the reasons I’ve stated above. I do think diversity is good beyond filling a quota. I don’t believe a large percentage of hiring managers know why that is though.
sturg33
I
No but I am exhausted from a newborn
If we are all guilty of subconscious bias to hire people who look like us, then I suspect that minority owned businesses will start thriving by subconconsciously hiring people that look like them, and they will catch up to whitey companies who've been doing this for decades
I feel like you know the flaws in this argument given where capital is largely concentrated.
I actually don’t believe it necessary for the Vice President or a SCOTUS Justice to be any specific race or gender. I have concerns with the consequences of what is called a meritocracy, but there are certain appointments where I’d be more concerned with their qualifications than filling a supposed gap. Fortunately I do believe that KBJ was an immensely qualified federal judge and that Kamala Harris was a qualified politician. I also think there’s value in their unique perspectives in their positions. I don’t object to suggestions that race and gender shouldn’t be the basis for these decisions, but I do object that just because someone is a member of a particular group that they cannot also be qualified and capable.
acesfull86
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/anti-racism-author-accused-plagiarising-184117691.html
The bestselling author of a book about “white fragility” has been accused of plagiarising sections of the work of two Asian-Americans in her doctoral thesis.
Robin DiAngelo, an anti-racism consultant who argues that racial divisions have been entrenched by “defensive” white people, committed 20 cases of plagiarism, according to a complaint filed with her alma mater, the University of Washington.
Ms DiAngelo’s book White Fragility became a New York Times bestseller when it was published in 2018, and also experienced a surge in popularity following the death of George Floyd and the Black Lives Matter protests in 2020.
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First Kendi, now DiAngelo? Shame!
The bestselling author of a book about “white fragility” has been accused of plagiarising sections of the work of two Asian-Americans in her doctoral thesis.
Robin DiAngelo, an anti-racism consultant who argues that racial divisions have been entrenched by “defensive” white people, committed 20 cases of plagiarism, according to a complaint filed with her alma mater, the University of Washington.
Ms DiAngelo’s book White Fragility became a New York Times bestseller when it was published in 2018, and also experienced a surge in popularity following the death of George Floyd and the Black Lives Matter protests in 2020.
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First Kendi, now DiAngelo? Shame!
acesfull86
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In fairness, these folks are working in such an intellectually rigorous field, the temptation to cheat must be great!