2024 Field

[thethe]

Wow the NYT poll has Trump +11 in Midwest. That’s an absurd figure.

 

[Garmel]

Why does it look like that?

Lauren Chen supported Trump in the primary. Benny and Poor are Trump cultists

The Lauren Chen part isn't true.

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[thethe]

Everyone would have beaten Joe Biden. The guys toast. He was not a juggernaut, he was ice cream, melted.

Nobody would have seen it because they could have hid him even more than they did in 2020.

 

[chop2chip]

Seth Dillon is correct

But this is the new playbook for many on the right. They make provocative statements in hopes of generating objections, and then they cite those objections as proof that no one is allowed to have the conversation. I guess they think you're too stupid to see that the objections are themselves part of the conversation.

 

[thethe]

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Unfortunately we are in a world with mindless zombies.

 

[thethe]

Seth Dillon is correct

What I’ve learned from the past few years is that everything is worth questioning that has been fed to us as conventional wisdom. That doesn’t mean everything is wrong but unwillingness to question is stranger to me.

 

[chop2chip]

All I can see are that the people who were paid millions of dollars were unabashedly pro Trump since the primary

This is an odd use of money for some entity trying to hurt Trump

Actually insane that Dave Rubin was getting paid $100k per video that were getting 700 views.

 

[chop2chip]

What I’ve learned from the past few years is that everything is worth questioning that has been fed to us as conventional wisdom. That doesn’t mean everything is wrong but unwillingness to question is stranger to me.

I agree with you. But we should also be receptive to criticism of our questioning which is Seth’s point.

 

[thethe]

I agree with you. But we should also be receptive to criticism of our questioning which is Seth’s point.

No question about this - I’m not outraged by Seth’s response at all. Just the argument that certain things shouldn’t be questioned (which has been uttered in response to this topic by many) is what I’m against. History to me is very much undecided.

 

[thethe]

Actually insane that Dave Rubin was getting paid $100k per video that were getting 700 views.

And Rubin was a big time desantis supporter which doesn’t mean anything other than the fact it contradicts some other conclusions being drawn.

 

[thethe]

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Their voters get shoveled so much garbage they can’t remember things from last month.

 

[chop2chip]

And Rubin was a big time desantis supporter which doesn’t mean anything other than the fact it contradicts some other conclusions being drawn.

Oh to live in a universe where an alternate version of Tim Pool was able to cover this version Tim Pool receiving $5m from a foreign state for videos about “skateboarding, dating and videogames”.

 

[nsacpi]

Oh to live in a universe where an alternate version of Tim Pool was able to cover this version Tim Pool receiving $5m from a foreign state for videos about “skateboarding, dating and videogames”.

We shouldn't discount the possibility that the Russians spend their money in dumb and inefficient ways. No disrespect to Mr. Pool intended.

 

[Garmel]

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Their voters get shoveled so much garbage they can’t remember things from last month.

If these so-called conservatives vote for a woman spouting Marxist crap what does it say about them?

 

[acesfull86]

If these so-called conservatives vote for a woman spouting Marxist crap what does it say about them?

I totally understand why Trump/MAGA have driven many conservatives out of (R). The part I don't get is their subsequent joining/endorsing of (D).

 

[nsacpi]

I totally understand why Trump/MAGA have driven many conservatives out of (R). The part I don't get is their subsequent joining/endorsing of (D).

The math aint hard.

An analogy from baseball. When the second place team beats any old rando team they gain half a game in the standings. When they beat the first place team they gain a whole game.

 

[acesfull86]

The math aint hard.

An analogy from baseball. When the second place team beats any old rando team they gain half a game in the standings. When they beat the first place team they gain a whole game.

This ain’t sports. If your motivation is simply to be part of a winning team at the expense of your previously held values, then sure.

 

[thethe]

I totally understand why Trump/MAGA have driven many conservatives out of (R). The part I don't get is their subsequent joining/endorsing of (D).

The ones that are leaving are frauds because there is only one conduit to conservative principles. You may not get 100% of what you want but you’ll get 0% of what you want from Harris.

 

[thethe]

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[thethe]

Also - Republican Party has presented themselves as true conservatives for 40 years. How has that worked out for the country?