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The best pollsters are Trafalgar, Insider Advantage, Rasmussen and Atlas Intel. Mostly due to their work from 2020. All of them and the RCP average have been more accurate than Silver.

The betting markets are not highly impressive. Last week many of them like Polymarket had Trump winning Georgia and Penn but losing the electoral count. Everybody knows that's the only two battleground states Trump needs to win with 270 on the dot. Holy **** that's stupid. How can you trust sites that do that nonsense?

When I say "you fell for it" I'm talking about the ebbs and flows of this election and not a particular pollster.
 
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sturg33 said:
What I'm implying is that Trump is a horrendous candidate who is barely beating, or perhaps even losing to the worst presidential candidate in history.

LOL
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It definitely is troubling that the Dems have ran 3 absolute turds in a row for POTUS, and Republicans are in danger of going 1-2 in these elections, while losing the popular vote each time. Regardless what happens in this election, we've got to start selecting better candidates. Shapiro and DeSantis or Youngkin in 2028 would be good race with 2 quality opponents that I think most reasonable Americans wouldn't absolutely hate.
 
Carp said:
It definitely is troubling that the Dems have ran 3 absolute turds in a row for POTUS, and Republicans are in danger of going 1-2 in these elections, while losing the popular vote each time. Regardless what happens in this election, we've got to start selecting better candidates. Shapiro and DeSantis or Youngkin in 2028 would be good race with 2 quality opponents that I think most reasonable Americans wouldn't absolutely hate.
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Trump's not our best candidate (That's RDS) but every republican would have a hard time winning with the current media. It's always been left wing but now it's outrageous.

I love Youngkin in 2028 because he could turn Virginia red.
 
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I love the continuing commentary when there is a change based on polls that have been materially off the last few election cycles. When the outcome is what it will be I’ll be here.
 
thethe said:
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Harris is toxic. It’s going to get ugly soon.
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Do you even read?

The polling indicates that various voter groups are dismissing the significance of the endorsement. However, it remains a positive narrative for Swift among young voters who welcomed her support. Indeed, about 52 percent of individuals aged 18 to 29 reported they were more inclined to vote for the Democrat presidential nominee due to Swift’s endorsement.

Anyway I guess swift really is struggling hard let's check out her

Oh wait we're getting an update here, there's been no negative change to her monthly spotify followers

https://songstats.com/artist/i5muw4...urceId=spotify&graphDataId=account-popularity

The people who're viewing her negatively are retarded old republicans. Congrats people who wouldn't have spent money on her hate her what a shock. You're trying to downplay this because T-Swift could easily flip important states.
 
thethe said:
I love the continuing commentary when there is a change based on polls that have been materially off the last few election cycles. When the outcome is what it will be I’ll be here.
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The polls are accurate when they show Trump winning.

The polls are inaccurate when they show Trump losing.

You'd think you'd be embarrassed by now from leaning into this so hard
 
sturg33 said:
The polls are accurate when they show Trump winning.

The polls are inaccurate when they show Trump losing.

You'd think you'd be embarrassed by now from leaning into this so hard
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The odds have already flipped to Trump on the swing states he needs. I said after the debate we’d see something like this and by end of September early October it would go back to Trump. We have seen Hugh quality polls showing Trump either tied or a lead in aggregate.

I’ll be here either way but it’s going to be amusing when Trump wins comfortably.
 
Garmel said:
The best pollsters are Trafalgar, Insider Advantage, Rasmussen and Atlas Intel. Mostly due to their work from 2020. All of them and the RCP average have been more accurate than Silver.

The betting markets are not highly impressive. Last week many of them like Polymarket had Trump winning Georgia and Penn but losing the electoral count. Everybody knows that's the only two battleground states Trump needs to win with 270 on the dot. Holy **** that's stupid. How can you trust sites that do that nonsense?

When I say "you fell for it" I'm talking about the ebbs and flows of this election and not a particular pollster.
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Just happened again. Trump is again the favorite in PA and GA but the bettors think Kamala wins. Idiotic.
 
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