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Tapate50
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I’d think they’d have to be in a terror watch list , no? That would warrant lookin into at least ?
Tapate50
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Would not want to offend their terrorist voters and pet eating constituents right before election time !
cajunrevenge
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Obviously the deep state trying to give liberals a bad name.
cajunrevenge
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Obviously the deep state trying to give liberals a bad name.
Tapate50
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Their silence is deafening
acesfull86
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It would be funny if it wasn’t so damaging.
Isn’t “mastery of reading, writing, and math” the whole point???
Push them right through to colleges they aren’t prepared for, lower standards for college degrees out of necessity, then beg for a student loan bailout when the real world finally hits.
I actually agree with you for the most part. I do believe there are systemic issues that are disproportionately affecting students of color, but lowering the standards for graduation without doing anything to fix the system will only perpetuate that cycle. We do these students a great disservice by not investing in actual solutions to our education system. But you’re quite right that many on the left aren’t willing to meaningfully engage with this problem, and instead will declare opposition to this plan as bigoted.
If I had a magic wand, I think I’d do roughly this:
Invest heavily in education from pre-K to 9th grade, both at the state and federal levels. I’m open to that including charter schools to increase competition and hold educators accountable to positive results, but I’d favor strong guardrails to help disadvantaged students with the resources needed to overcome the environmental challenges they face. To me, this wouldn’t be based on race but rather socioeconomic factors, so the mostly white students in meth-addled West Virginia would get more money funneled toward them along with students of all backgrounds in inner-city schools. Add more schools to reduce class sizes, build more individualized learning plans, etc.
Promote the trades and alternatives to college beginning in that 9th/10th grade timeframe. The current system of assuming every student is a future academic just doesn’t jive with how jobs or abilities are distributed in society. While I wholly reject “race realists” who suggest works like The Bell Curve are in any way accurate to natural aptitudes between different groups, I do think individuals possess different strengths and weaknesses. If enough meaningful work is put into identifying that by removing barriers during the earlier stages of the education system, I think you can help students more by not pushing them into tracks that do not suit them as we do now. I’d stop short of assigning students according to aptitude and taking away their agency, but I’d certainly support a public awareness campaign to encourage other ways of finding success.
Greatly reduce the amount of public funding going toward traditional higher education to increase spending on trade schools and apprenticeship programs. Again, there just isn’t enough demand for roles that require a 4-year degree to match the emphasis placed on them, and we can better allocate that money by accepting that fact.
acesfull86
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Decades of flat/down student enrollment, worse student performance, and massive growth in administration. That's where all the money is going, and it needs to be answered for before spending even more $$ on education.
You’re right that it’s not sufficient to just invest, and that was an intentional oversimplification. But we are investing a lot of money already. I just think we’re doing so poorly and at the wrong end of the process. Setting kids up for success early and then helping them find a path that actually works for them would be much more effective than tossing money at universities that price gouge their students *and* the students to pay that overpriced tuition.