There has been a televised debate every election for the past like 60 years. Biden was never going to back out. Biden's approval rating had been steadily falling since the Q1 of 2023. From late October through Mid March, it never rose above 39.9%, when it briefly got boosted by the SOTU. Then it never rose above 40.0% again until late August when he was already out of the race. There is no chance whatsoever that Biden was going beat anyone the Republicans out there. Hell I would have given Chris Christie at least a 50/50 chance to beat Biden.
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There has been a televised debate every election for the past like 60 years. Biden was never going to back out. Biden's approval rating had been steadily falling since the Q1 of 2023. From late October through Mid March, it never rose above 39.9%, when it briefly got boosted by the SOTU. Then it never rose above 40.0% again until late August when he was already out of the race. There is no chance whatsoever that Biden was going beat anyone the Republicans out there. Hell I would have given Chris Christie at least a 50/50 chance to beat Biden.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
No I think you're seeing what you want to see because you're in a bubble of your own ecosystem. Trump didn't make **** cool. By your logic Trump made wearing adult diapers cool but I don't see you rushing out to buy depends. Trump makes nothing cool. He's a ****ing billionaire weirdo.
You are acting like the current iteration of the Democrat party cares about norms.
Thats your issue.
You're talking about Trump and depends while also pretending you have any clue what you are talking about.
You are a pathetic little child who allowed the media to completely warp your perception of reality.
Just wait till the data on the election comes out and Trump does better than any republican in decades with young people and minorities.
Tapate50
Well-known member
I meant the opposite could be true as well bc of your reddit based ecosystem, no?
Tell me how you’d personally pay for food and housing for you and a child on $20,000 a year and get back to me, let alone buy any of the other things you need beyond food or housing.
Unless you can’t keep that job because your child got sick more than 5 times in a given year and you get fired. And nobody is suggesting you can’t afford housing and food with government assistance. Government support for those in poverty is quite literally what the left is suggesting we continue to do more of. If conservatives weren’t trying to kick people off of these programs we wouldn’t need to have this discussion to begin with.
It doesn't matter what the norms are. Biden is/was extremely unpopular. There was no way they weren't going to have a debate with whatever Republican was thrown out. When a POTUS is that unpopular, they aren't going to take a chance that Americans prefer him over a random Republican.
And Kamala is absolutely doing better than Biden in every facet. Trump had a consistent national polling lead on Biden that peaked after the debate. RCP doesn't have Biden leading Trump at any point in national polling from Nov 23 through the moment he dropped out. Trump was polling 3-5 points better than Biden in GA, AZ, NC, and NV BEFORE the debate.
Super fun that businesses can legally pay less than half that amount per hour and we blame the earners for being in those jobs then.
My biggest problem in all this is the tension between needing folks to have more kids as the Right suggests and these views on economics and welfare programs. If you tell people to have kids, then make it so their life is hell because of their finances, I don’t know how you think you’re benefitting society as a whole.
Polling or the fact that people can’t afford to have kids? If you mean the polling, I simply refuse to believe anybody actually knows.
