Some Red State/Blue State Indicia

If the blue states were as well off as the stats say people wouldn't be moving to the red states in droves.

Blue state stats are not believable.
 
If the blue states were as well off as the stats say people wouldn't be moving to the red states in droves.

Blue state stats are not believable.

People need a struggle, a conflict.

Blue state lives just got way too easy. So the people wanted to go and suffer under Ron DeSantis so that they could understand what living nazi Germany was like

2030 census will be fun
 
If the blue states were as well off as the stats say people wouldn't be moving to the red states in droves.

Blue state stats are not believable.

I’m sure people live longer in California. People in the South eat like ****.

Though I struggle to understand why Karen Bass and Gavin Newsom deserve credit for the weather and food culture of California.
 
I’m sure people live longer in California. People in the South eat like ****.

Though I struggle to understand why Karen Bass and Gavin Newsom deserve credit for the weather and food culture of California.

There are also large state level differences in public health policies. But I suppose we are precluded from considering the possibility that some blue state policies might be worthy of emulation.

California food/exercise culture and weather hasn't changed much relative to Oklahoma and Texas since 1980. If we are to account for the growing divergence in life expectancy since 1980 that would not be where I would start.

Nor has New York food/exercise culture and weather. But keep tryin'. (you deserve a dropped g for joining the yahoo club)
 
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I’m sure people live longer in California. People in the South eat like ****.

Though I struggle to understand why Karen Bass and Gavin Newsom deserve credit for the weather and food culture of California.

Possibly.

Rural areas also have poor access to medical care for the most part. Driving 45-60 minutes to a hospital can be a death sentence.
 
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A little ice and snow and an entire city grinds to a halt! Now I know why the south lost the war!

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Possibly.

Rural areas alos have poor access to medical care for the most part. Driving 45-60 minutes to a hospital can be a death sentence.

True, but access to goods and services is also a differentiator in quality of life on its own. For all the benefits of rural life, there are also benefits to city life. One of which is that you’re less likely to die because the only Emergency Room in your county is shut down.
 
I've actually lived in an area with no local hospital vs living 15 minutes from a top 100 hospital.

i have a little experience with this, BL.
 
There are also large state level differences in public health policies. But I suppose we are precluded from considering the possibility that some blue state policies might be worthy of emulation.

California food/exercise culture and weather hasn't changed much relative to Oklahoma and Texas since 1980. If we are to account for the growing divergence in life expectancy since 1980 that would not be where I would start.

Nor has New York food/exercise culture and weather. But keep tryin'. (you deserve a dropped g for joining the yahoo club)

Nor has Utah, Idaho, Montana, etc.
 
I've actually lived in an area with no local hospital vs living 15 minutes from a top 100 hospital.

i have a little experience with this, BL.

thang is...you are referring to something (backwardness and its miseries) that could account for the differential in health outcomes...but it seems to me to account for the growing differential in health outcomes you would need to build a case for growing backwardness (i'm all in on that argument but i'm not sure y'all are)
 
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Nor has Utah, Idaho, Montana, etc.

The widening of the differential in health outcomes since 1980 seems to be mainly driven by differences in public health policy. There is a growing body of research on this.
For example, there is an interesting paper that looks at counties near where Ohio, Pennsylvania and New York meet. It looks specifically at lung cancer and state policy regarding messaging about smoking. The outcomes are more or less what you would expect. Multiply that across a variety of diseases and policies and you get 5 years more of life in state with good policies as opposed to one with bad policies.
 
thang is...you are referring to something (backwardness and its miseries) that could account for the differential in health outcomes...but it seems to be to account for the growing differential in health outcomes you would need to build a case for growing backwardness (i'm all in on that argument but i'm not sure y'all are)

So rural living is backwards now?

I'm for more industrialization.

In a century the south will be the cornerstone of industry with all of the movemnt in this country.

Take that and smoke it, you pompous uninformed jackass.
 
True, but access to goods and services is also a differentiator in quality of life on its own. For all the benefits of rural life, there are also benefits to city life. One of which is that you’re less likely to die because the only Emergency Room in your county is shut down.
Plus there are rural blue states (hello Vermont) that have done quite well on basic health metrics such as life expectancy
 
It is a blue state red state thing. The widening of the differential in health outcomes since 1980. The research suggests that differences in public policy is the explanation. There is an interesting paper that looks at counties near where Ohio, Pennsylvania and New York intersect. It looks specifically at lung cancer and state policy regarding messaging about smoking. The outcomes are more or less what you would expect. Multiply that across a variety of diseases and policies and you get 5 years more of life in state with good policies as opposed to one with bad policies.

Life expectancies is most strongly correlated with obesity rates.

Do we think obesity is driven more by government policy or culture?
 
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