Some Red State/Blue State Indicia
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It’s all well and good until “not following COVID protocols” becomes the next crime you can lose an arm for.
Believe that all you want, but crimes aren’t naturally occurring and those in power get to dictate what is a crime. You’re rightly concerned with the 1st Amendment, but if it were me, I would not so freely give away my 8th Amendment rights given that context.
No, there ****ing isn’t, because that’s not how either words or sociology works. There’s a *general* understanding of criminality, but it’s informed by our lived experiences. You cannot universally understand criminality because crime is explicitly contextual.
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What does mqt want us to do with this person
- breaks into someones home, steals thousands of dollars of stuff
get caught, serves some time, gets let go
- breaks into someones home, is confrtoned by home owner, and physically assaults the home owner.
gets caught, serves some time, gets let go
repeats the two crimes above an additional 6 times.
What should we do with this person?
- breaks into someones home, steals thousands of dollars of stuff
get caught, serves some time, gets let go
- breaks into someones home, is confrtoned by home owner, and physically assaults the home owner.
gets caught, serves some time, gets let go
repeats the two crimes above an additional 6 times.
What should we do with this person?
You don't understand - Its societies fault this is happening.
This is quite literally the opposite of why I believe what I believe, and your failure to understand that is rather telling. You believe because we live in a system where girls do certain activities, wear certain clothes and perform certain roles in our society that there is a universal understanding of what a girl is, centered around biological sex. But we made up the activities, clothes and roles. I’m not going to try to convince you it is wrong that we’ve done so, and just because something isn’t a universal truth doesn’t make something a bad or flawed idea, but we’re in a different arena right now from discussing what makes sense societally or is easily recognized or understood.
The human brain is a ****ing marvel, but it is still fundamentally limited by what it has observed. That doesn’t mean we throw out all the rules as utter nonsense, but I personally find it important to understand that our understanding of “universal truths” is driven by the context of our surroundings. For me, that leads to questioning why we’re willing to accept that it’s just “true” that what we’ve defined as criminal or what we’ve defined as being a man or woman in our society. And to be clear, I don’t think the answer is for there to be no rules or definitions. I’m just open to new understandings of certain things and against dogmatic statements that something is naturally true.
I’d work on doing more within the criminal justice system to help this individual have better opportunities after he’s left prison, but literally the only thing I’m asking in this thread is to not execute him.
He killed a woman, he should be in prison for life. I’m not anti-locking up people who do murders.
Once he’s served the sentence for his crime, sure. Pass new laws if you want him to have some specific sentencing. Just don’t pretend there aren’t solutions somewhere between letting him steal and letting the state execute him for stealing.
My argument is pretty directly that there’s no universal truth that what makes someone a man, a concept defined by humans to account for differences we observed between two sets of people, is their genitals rather than their other traits that you state are inherently masculine or feminine. I wholly understand why men and women are defined as they are, but I reject the notion that society absolutely *must* accept this as “universally” true.