Offseason Hot Stove 2024-25 Thread

Carp said:
At first I thought maybe Xander Bogaerts could be a part of the deal as a salary dump that essentially makes Cease free and gives us a better option than Arcia at SS. But then I looked at Bogaerts remaining contract....... sheesh that is one awful contract.
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It's legitimately one of the worst contracts ever. It's truly crippling for them
 
I honestly don't want Cease as a one year rental... Giving up a haul on a year of 1 player when there is so much uncertainty, is not worth it to me. Too many other holes that have not been filled to being buying just a one year guy.

Braves have lost
Minter
JJ
Chavez
Fried
Morton
TDA
Ramon

Still have to deal with these sucking
Asscia
KeleNOT
Another OF for a month or so.

AA needs to either reset the Lux tax or address those issues before buying a 1 year rental.
 
Carp said:
At first I thought maybe Xander Bogaerts could be a part of the deal as a salary dump that essentially makes Cease free and gives us a better option than Arcia at SS. But then I looked at Bogaerts remaining contract....... sheesh that is one awful contract.
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holy sheet... what were they thinking... 9 more years at 25 million.. I mean, I think Xander is a good player and probably closer to a 3-4 win player for the next few years... but 25 million until he is 40.. they would have to kick in 50+ million to even think about that.
 
bravesfanMatt said:
I honestly don't want Cease as a one year rental... Giving up a haul on a year of 1 player when there is so much uncertainty, is not worth it to me. Too many other holes that have not been filled to being buying just a one year guy.

Braves have lost

Minter

JJ

Chavez

Fried

Morton

TDA

Ramon

Still have to deal with these sucking

Asscia

KeleNOT

Another OF for a month or so.

AA needs to either reset the Lux tax or address those issues before buying a 1 year rental.
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That one-year rental is one of the best pitchers in baseball and more than covers a large portion of losing Fried and Morton, though. I'd prefer we extend him long term, but if the deal is there, you likely make it. Especially in the dead heat of a contention window. Yes, you don't do a massive overpay, but AA seems to be approaching it the right way.

But also, AA has very literally let players walk and created holes by trading guys like Soler. So it's time to get off your ass.
 
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Carp said:
At first I thought maybe Xander Bogaerts could be a part of the deal as a salary dump that essentially makes Cease free and gives us a better option than Arcia at SS. But then I looked at Bogaerts remaining contract....... sheesh that is one awful contract.
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We could flip him to the Blue Jays when Bichette leaves next offseason but they're still convinced they don't need to rebuild.
 
bravesfanMatt said:
holy sheet... what were they thinking... 9 more years at 25 million.. I mean, I think Xander is a good player and probably closer to a 3-4 win player for the next few years... but 25 million until he is 40.. they would have to kick in 50+ million to even think about that.
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More than that honestly. I would be fine with paying him his entire salary for the next 4 years. But then I would want the Pads to cover at least 20 million every year for the remaining 5 years of the contract. And the Pads most definitely wouldn't do that.
 
Carp said:
More than that honestly. I would be fine with paying him his entire salary for the next 4 years. But then I would want the Pads to cover at least 20 million every year for the remaining 5 years of the contract. And the Pads most definitely wouldn't do that.
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Let them call it a deferral lol
 
I do think Nacho makes a lot of sense for them in a Cease trade. But they obviously would want a better piece and SP option to replace Cease. AJSS (or Waldrep) and Nacho plus a mid level prospect like Guanipa or Lara for Cease and Suarez seems like a trade that makes sense for both sides.
 
Boob says the Dodgers are shopping Brasier. What would they exact from us in a trade? Money to sign that the top Japanese guy next offseason?
 
bravesnumberone said:
Boob says the Dodgers are shopping Brasier. What would they exact from us in a trade? Money to sign that the top Japanese guy next offseason?
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Probably a guy down the ladder like Guanipa.

Before the Yates signing becomes official, they need to trade at least one guy.
 
At 37 years old and pretty mediocre career, Brasier should be practically free. While he only cost 4 million American dollars, surely we could find a similar RP on the relief market who would sign for something close to that or league minimum. Hell, I would probably take Chavez back for league minimum over this dude.

Hopefully the Dodgers find no takers are forced to cut him and eat that 4 million.
 
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Carp said:
At first I thought maybe Xander Bogaerts could be a part of the deal as a salary dump that essentially makes Cease free and gives us a better option than Arcia at SS. But then I looked at Bogaerts remaining contract....... sheesh that is one awful contract.
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I didn't realize it was that bad. I thought about him or Tatis. Tatis is only making 20 per right now but jumps to 36 next year so that wouldn't work. For Cease I wouldn't trade Baldwin or Caminiti but I would anybody else for him. I'm guessing AA is trying to get another piece along with Cease.
 
Carp said:
At 37 years old and pretty mediocre career, Brasier should be practically free. While he only cost 4 million American dollars, surely we could find a similar RP on the relief market who would sign for something close to that or league minimum. Hell, I would probably take Chavez back for league minimum over this dude.

Hopefully the Dodgers find no takers are forced to cut him and eat that 4 million.
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this.. dude is not worth anything other than a PTBNL and the Dodger$ should have to kick in cash as well..
 
Cease for nacho makes perfect sense and is very close to the sale for Grissom trade. I’m the low man on AJSS and Waldrep, but including either is too much.
 
Carp said:
I do think Nacho makes a lot of sense for them in a Cease trade. But they obviously would want a better piece and SP option to replace Cease. AJSS (or Waldrep) and Nacho plus a mid level prospect like Guanipa or Lara for Cease and Suarez seems like a trade that makes sense for both sides.
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I'd do that deal and I think AA and the Padres could find a middle ground. I think Boras being his agent is what would cause some hesitation bc he knows Cease will be the top SP on the market next offseason. AA would have to offer pretty much market value to resign him which I would be fine with. Cease is from Georgia so that does help. He may have to over ride Boras and tell him to get it done. AA wanted Crochet but refused on Baldwin so he isn't gonna trade him and shouldn't at this point. Getting Cease and signing him long term would allow AA to concentrate on just 1 of Tucker or Bichette next offseason.
 
Enscheff said:
Cease for nacho makes perfect sense and is very close to the sale for Grissom trade. I’m the low man on AJSS and Waldrep, but including either is too much.
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Agreed, but the Braves won't get him without an overpay. Perhaps Owen Murphy plus Alvarez?
 
Just thinking out loud, but I wonder if a Nacho Alvarez and Hurston Waldrep (or AJSS) trade for Cease and Robert Suarez would work for both sides?
 
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