Second ('Third') Trump Presidency Thread

sturg33 said:
I believe the line was "the courts tried to block me, but that didn't stop me"

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Okay, setting aside hypocrisy for just a moment, as someone who both supports the cuts and doesn’t idolize Donald Trump, are you not concerned by the way loan forgiveness went? The courts tried to block Biden, and while it didn’t stop him from trying, the vast majority of his programs were scrapped by the courts.
 
mqt said:
Okay, setting aside hypocrisy for just a moment, as someone who both supports the cuts and doesn’t idolize Donald Trump, are you not concerned by the way loan forgiveness went? The courts tried to block Biden, and while it didn’t stop him from trying, the vast majority of his programs were scrapped by the courts.
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I want Trump to stretch the legal limit of his power that he can possibly do. It's why I was such a big fan of RDS, who knew exactly what he could do within his legal power to get his agenda done

And I'm also frankly fine with doing a few things that require the left to spend their time and resources to fight in the courts. It's what we had to do for 4 years
 
Btw, we didn't vote for these judges either.

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sturg33 said:
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How about instead of demonizing the math students who accepted a ****ing job that was posted, we take the agency to task for also placing weird restrictions on other applications or on the current Admin who just ended these grants without taking that into consideration?

The person whose thread is being quoted here actually provides some examples of why “DEI hires” aren’t just a pile of unqualified minorities but rather in many cases a bunch of potentially qualified people who took roles that had these grants instead of other roles.
 
mqt said:
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How about instead of demonizing the math students who accepted a ****ing job that was posted, we take the agency to task for also placing weird restrictions on other applications or on the current Admin who just ended these grants without taking that into consideration?

The person whose thread is being quoted here actually provides some examples of why “DEI hires” aren’t just a pile of unqualified minorities but rather in many cases a bunch of potentially qualified people who took roles that had these grants instead of other roles.
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I am quite comfortable with unilaterally ending racist based grants without consideration of the consequences
 
Good for Jon. Please continue to shame these people to the point they are too embarrassed to continue on as is.

The best thing for Americans is for the opposition to MAGA to be sane, so they are forced to reconcile the threat of being voted out of office. (This is not a criticism of MAGA).

If you don’t want your President to act like a King stop giving them King like authority over your lives.

 
chop2chip said:
Good for Jon. Please continue to shame these people to the point they are too embarrassed to continue on as is.

The best thing for Americans is for the opposition to MAGA to be sane, so they are forced to reconcile the threat of being voted out of office. (This is not a criticism of MAGA).

If you don’t want your President to act like a King stop giving them King like authority over your lives.

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I agree with you and Stewart on this, but I still think there’s a genuine lack of understanding by both sides that these issues don’t just cease to be issues when your team is in power. To wit, this is a video that responds directly to Stewart’s accurate claims that certain actions by Trump thus fair aren’t authoritarian, but then he just scolds the left and bails right as Stewart gets to the parts where the right is still doing ridiculous things.

I’m not sure Stewart wouldn’t just be the best possible candidate for Dems in 2028 at this point. He seems to genuinely understand that things are more nuanced than good vs. evil or democracy vs Hitler and rather consistently holds to his guns on right and wrong on both policy and process.
 
mqt said:
He was getting paid for his work in STEM. That is a real job. How do you think math happens?
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He talked about moving to Europe since he didn't know what to do with his life since he wasn't getting gov grants anymore. With 3 degrees he should have a good enough skill set to get a good job in the private sector.
 
thewupk said:
He talked about moving to Europe since he didn't know what to do with his life since he wasn't getting gov grants anymore. With 3 degrees he should have a good enough skill set to get a good job in the private sector.
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He’s doing number theory. He explicitly points out he *could* go that route, but surely you must see that it’s not necessarily compelling to suggest to a person trying to create new math that he could just go get a “good job” not following that passion if he can continue to do so in Europe. The issue he’s specifically bringing up is that because he was encouraged to only apply for this position instead of other positions that he might have been qualified for, the immediate cut to his program because it was “DEI” means they aren’t necessarily getting rid of less qualified candidates, but also strong candidates who might have qualified for standard programs that were dissuaded from pursuing other applications in addition to these specific programs.
 
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