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chop2chip
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zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
No one knows who's running, so names get the higher point.
AOC is going to makea deep run. She's taking over Bernie's torch. But she may opt to try and primary Chuck Shumer instead of running for president.
I think Beshear is the best shot the dems have at a true route. He's liberal, white male, has some draw in southern states and midwest.
Beashear will get crushed in his own state against Trump (HOPEFULLY) or Vance if he ever won his parties nomination.
THEY HAVE NOWHERE TO GO
You can either get 80%+ of what you want or 0.
Its time for 'free market people' to understand we are living in the real world.
acesfull86
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If MAGA’s platform was exactly the same, except they shifted their economics to embrace unilateral free trade, would you support them?
There is no such thing as unilateral free trade with the CCP.
I have been on record repeatedly that I would accept free trade with free nations. My preference is more radical for sure but I'm not a little bitch and cry if I don't get 100% of what I want.
But again - You can do two things: 1- vote for Dems or sit out (same exact thing) 2 - vote for MAGA and get 80% of what you want
sturg33
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If i want
1. Massive spending cuts
2. Non interventionist free trade
3. Covid accountability
4. Mass deportations
5. Dismantling of government departments and the FBI
6. Extreme gun rights
Where am I getting 80% of this?
Where are you getting any of that from anywhere else?
We are not interested in whiny little babies that live in a fantasy land. Continue your bitching for things that would never happen with anyone. You're the AOC wing of the Republican party at this point.
But steps are being taken for 2/4/5 right now - You just think you can flip a switch and it happens.
This ain't Florida with a super majority in Congress.
We are not interested in whiny little babies that live in a fantasy land. Continue your bitching for things that would never happen with anyone. You're the AOC wing of the Republican party at this point.
But steps are being taken for 2/4/5 right now - You just think you can flip a switch and it happens.
This ain't Florida with a super majority in Congress.
acesfull86
Well-known member
Wasn’t the question
sturg33
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I answered the question - I said yes because MAGA is ultimately the best option out of anything that is available that has a chance of winning national elections.
You're getting none of it on day ~90 of the new administration.
Damn man - you're so right!!!
AOC wing of the republicans. People like you should just be ignored moving forward. You aren't needed to win national elections any longer. Go take a picture of your ballots with an empty top of the ticket like the rest of the Desimps.
sturg33
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Trust me it's not lost on me that our options are socialist a or socialist b
Uniparty is thriving
sturg33
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At least it doesn't require me to change every value I've ever claimed to hold on a daily basis
sturg33
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here are a few fun examples for you
back in the day, when Trump and MAGA wanted to ban tik-tok, you were right there with them. a CCP tool to brain rot American minds was how you described it. Then - Trump takes a meeting with its largest investor, and all the sudden wants to keep TikTok. how did you respond? shockingly, you responded in favor of keeping it as well, because it's a took to communicate to the younger generation.
trump extended the deadline for its purchase... shockingly, you supported it. and you said at the time you would not support a further extension. Guess what?? he extended it again. do you support? I have a hunch!
or what about the CR fight. in real time, I posted that Trump holds the leverage, he has the popular support... he should force a shutdown without spending cuts. at the time, you agreed with me.
guess what - fast forward to trump supporting the same Biden spending... where did you land? you guessed it! you supported it too! because it was necessary to keep the government open to do all these trade wars (for some reason)
or what about when trump started attacking Thomas Massie.... you said at the time that was silly, unproductive... but after a day or two.. you changed your mind! Massie sucks and has never gotten anything done. what good is he anyway?
Or what about the tariffs? When Trump put random ass tariffs on every country on earth (except Russia for some reason)... you said you were loving every minute of it. brilliant! but then, a few days go by, and he says "never mind! gonna delay it 90 days. the bond markets are scaring me." what was you response? did you attack Trump for not moving forward with the thing you said you loved just days ago? ha, of course not! you said the pivot was also brilliant. and the markets went up! See? he's fucking brilliant that Trump guy!
or what about the beginning of tariffs? he slapped them on Mexico and candada. I couldn't figure out why. You assured me, it's about fentanyl, dummy! we need agents at the border! look, the strategy is working! Mexico is conceding! Canada is sending us agents! Great job, Trump!... but fast forward a few weeks... it's all about China. everything tariff related is about china china china! brilliant strategy once again, mr. Trump!
I can keep going... but you get the point (ha!, yeah right). ultimately, you no longer are an independent thinker. you shape shift everything you believe to align with whatever Trump says today. it's why you refuse to give specifics about what you want to see or results we should expect... doing so would put a stake in the ground, and when trump ultimately changes his mind, or doesn't deliver, you need that room to pivot to whatever it is that day
listless vessel
Fast forward its all about China?
All those things you mentioend about Mexico/Canada have to do with China. I have been saying itw as about the CCP since the beginning.
You're just too demented right now to remember.
This is a whole strategy to isolate China....AND IT'S WORKING.
All those things you mentioend about Mexico/Canada have to do with China. I have been saying itw as about the CCP since the beginning.
You're just too demented right now to remember.
This is a whole strategy to isolate China....AND IT'S WORKING.