GDT 4/20: Holmes is the Easter Beagle

[Deester11]

Acuna has no room to criticize anyone. He has blown out both his knees doing useless shit to feed his ego. He could be a gold glove level defender in RF but doesnt put in the work/effort. He continues playing winter ball despite being injury prone which hurts the team. Biggest mistake we can make is signing him to a new big contract. Second biggest mistake would be not cashing in on him and watching him leave for a 4th round draft pick.

Love ya Cajun, but this is a complete bs post. I'd trade to maximize what you can get if proven healthy. Atlanta ain't backing up the truck for him so yeah..I get it. Useless shit like.....play the way he always has? Yall can put negative narratives on him all you want, but the manager is a clown show and fk that old ass play this way or that way. He worked his ass off to get back...he's lazy af. Gtfoh

 

[cajunrevenge]

I know I am not alone in wincing every time he steals a base. Its not just the legs but hand injuries too. Acuna is one of the few players who should be loafing it honestly. He is the franchise player. Having his bat in the lineup is too valuable to risk to steal a base in the 8th inning of a 7-2 game. Key late game situations and the playoffs I am fine with. That has value. This dudes out here stealing bases in spring training with a surgically repaired knee. Before the first knee injury I could think like you do. After the first one I expected him to learn and protect himself. I dont know if its selfish since he might end up losing 300 million but it definetely hurts the team.


As for Snit, I agree he sucks, but complaints about the manager has not stopped for 20 years. I am sure people will try to rewrite history about Bobby Cox but people couldnt wait for him to retire too. What does firing a dinosaur do for us if we are just going to hire another dinosaur. Theres probably 5 or less managers in the game today that this forum wouldnt treat like the worst manager to ever manage. Google top 10 managers in MLB. I bet Snits on every list you click on. Again, thats not to say Snit is good, just that being stupid is essential to being a MLB manager for some reason.

 

[thewupk]

I know I am not alone in wincing every time he steals a base. Its not just the legs but hand injuries too. Acuna is one of the few players who should be loafing it honestly. He is the franchise player. Having his bat in the lineup is too valuable to risk to steal a base in the 8th inning of a 7-2 game. Key late game situations and the playoffs I am fine with. That has value. This dudes out here stealing bases in spring training with a surgically repaired knee. Before the first knee injury I could think like you do. After the first one I expected him to learn and protect himself. I dont know if its selfish since he might end up losing 300 million but it definetely hurts the team.


As for Snit, I agree he sucks, but complaints about the manager has not stopped for 20 years. I am sure people will try to rewrite history about Bobby Cox but people couldnt wait for him to retire too. What does firing a dinosaur do for us if we are just going to hire another dinosaur. Theres probably 5 or less managers in the game today that this forum wouldnt treat like the worst manager to ever manage. Google top 10 managers in MLB. I bet Snits on every list you click on. Again, thats not to say Snit is good, just that being stupid is essential to being a MLB manager for some reason.

I'm not the one paying Acuna's salary so I don't care how he plays a game he enjoys.

Bobby Cox was an excellent players manager and identifier of talent. He wasn't the best in game strategist but that's honestly the least needed skill imo as a manager. Can you be a leader and control a lockerroom? He did that. Snit? Doesn't look like that's his calling card after all.

 

[bravesfanMatt]

Acuna is 'dumb'.. stealing bases in spring.. getting into run downs in spring.. jumping for almost every fly ball.. But Twit should be the arbiter of stupidity.. he should have controls in place to hone in a young, aggressive player that wants to go 150 every play.. But twit is not a leader and likes to sit in the shadows and let the talent keep him employed. Hopefully that talent is finally turning on him and he will be shit canned before getting to retire with honor.

 

[cajunrevenge]

I'm not the one paying Acuna's salary so I don't care how he plays a game he enjoys.

Bobby Cox was an excellent players manager and identifier of talent. He wasn't the best in game strategist but that's honestly the least needed skill imo as a manager. Can you be a leader and control a lockerroom? He did that. Snit? Doesn't look like that's his calling card after all.

Yeah I know Bobby was great. His only flaw imo was insisting starters go 6 innings who clearly were good 2 times through the order and terrible the third time. But people were treating him just like they are Snit now. Accusing him of being asleep during the game.

 

[CyYoung31]

Yeah I know Bobby was great. His only flaw imo was insisting starters go 6 innings who clearly were good 2 times through the order and terrible the third time. But people were treating him just like they are Snit now. Accusing him of being asleep during the game.

The difference is, that information wasn’t readily available and accepted during Bobby’s time. Snitker has no excuse.

 

[Carp]

Acuna has no room to criticize anyone. He has blown out both his knees doing useless shit to feed his ego. He could be a gold glove level defender in RF but doesnt put in the work/effort. He continues playing winter ball despite being injury prone which hurts the team. Biggest mistake we can make is signing him to a new big contract. Second biggest mistake would be not cashing in on him and watching him leave for a 4th round draft pick.

Or... may be he just genuinely loves playing baseball? How many ego driven assholes do you see playing baseball for literally nothing in their free time? How many ego driven assholes do you see leaving money on the table to sign a well below market deal, buying out prime FA years?

And you think he does it because of his ego? GTFOH.

 

[sc1767]

Acuna is gonna get paid. This incident won't have jack to do with that. Acuna made a post. He ain't wrong. Public or not.

You are missing the point I tried to make, that it is 6 years and Acuna jumped right on it. I believe he has been harboring resentment for 6 years.

And someone else said, Kelenic is on his way out, I can see if you think well he'll be gone soon you know maybe I don't feel like making an example of him. I am not defending Snitker for that he should have done his due diligence and pulled him, fined him, whatever. I was trying to reason out why he overlooked it. Not to justify it, but to understand it.

I didn't really see that as the big takeaway compared to Acuna jumping all over it like his issue was just last week or something. Really sensitive. Overly so, IMO. That's a red flag to me.

I probably didn't communicate effectively by saying it will be an excuse or however I put it, but he has resentment that he has been carrying, I would say. That's not good.

 

[Deester11]

There are people that don't like Acuna because he doesn't play a certain way, his uniform isn't perfect, his hat and other bs...and for all his talent, he rubs people the wrong way. I get that point. But bottom line in this is that other than posting his feelings he is not wrong. We've stretched this for 3 days now...and it still pisses me off that the so-called 'players manager' still gets it wrong with Acuna.

Snit set the standard and didn't adhere to it. For Kelenic? For freaking Kelenic! I'm trying to be done with this, but the angles people are taking to find a silver lining for Snit is wild. Such is life.

 

[Carp]

For anyone who thinks Acuna shouldn't rightly have an issue with how he's been treated by members of this organization since he first came up, see the comments below. I know everyone assumes Freeman was the bad guy here, but Freeman wasn't the only one trying to tone down Acuna's personality.



"When you come up as a rookie, there's always someone who [wants to tell you how to do things]," Acuna said. "You come up from the minor leagues with the big eye black, the sunglasses, the hat low, and a lot of people see that as wrong. And the other person doesn't see it as wrong because it's part of the game.

"A lot of veterans [picked on me] when I was a rookie, and they called me into the office themselves and told me: 'No, you can't use that.' And they took [the eye black] off me with a towel like that. And I said, 'OK, that's fine.'"

“When you come up as a rookie, there’s always somebody who wants to stick it to you,” Acuña explained. “You come with your swagger from the Minor Leagues. … A lot of people look at it as wrong and I don’t look at it as wrong because it’s part of the game.”