Some Personal Thoughts On Brian Snitker

[mfree80]

As we know, the baseball season is a marathon not a sprint. What happened in those first seven games has almost no bearing on what will happen at the end of the season.

The losses still count on the records, but beyond that, a lot of things will be different come playoff time. Just got to get there healthy.

 

[bravesfanMatt]

As we know, the baseball season is a marathon not a sprint. What happened in those first seven games has almost no bearing on what will happen at the end of the season.

The losses still count on the records, but beyond that, a lot of things will be different come playoff time. Just got to get there healthy.

this pretty much sums up the whole thing and closes the book on it imo...

 

[thewupk]

If this team had unlimited resources, I‘d be all in favor of renting 3 good players at the deadline for the playoff run, then get 4 new impact players in the offseason for the long term. But in the real world with limited resources, you have to ask what is the most prudent way to allocate them. Burning much of your dry powder on a good but flawed team in the hopes of pushing them past the Mets, Padres, Phillies, Cubs, Giants and Dodgers just doesn‘t seem prudent to me.

The Cubs, Padres and Giants are not better than the Braves. And it's arguable if the Mets and Phillies are too. Since starting 0-7 the Braves have the 2nd best record in the NL. And we're still missing our 2 best players.

 

[Enscheff]

Snit has always hurt the team, and it tends to become very apparent in October when opposing managers run circles around him. He is a negative that the talent on the roster overcomes because the collection of talent is exceptional.

I never understood the "he's a great leader of men" narrative because I've never seen any indication he leads these men in any way. Players seem to treat him like the beloved grandpa who gets pats on the head for remembering to take his pills every morning. Being adored and leading effectively are not the same thing, though it's easy to confuse them.

He's needed to be gone for years, but now is not the time. His decisions are going to cost the team 1 win per month, and 1 win in a playoff series that most likely ends the season...just like every season. Nobody who could realistically take over for him right now will be any better, so what's the point other than to stir up drama?

 

[Strike3urout]

The Cubs, Padres and Giants are not better than the Braves. And it's arguable if the Mets and Phillies are too. Since starting 0-7 the Braves have the 2nd best record in the NL. And we're still missing our 2 best players.

We are really arguing minutiae now. I‘ll summarize my 3 points of contention once more, then leave it at that.

1. I believe the Braves, as they are performing now and by what can be reasonably expected from the inured players returning to the squad, do not have a top-5 roster in MLB. Even if I‘m wrong, there‘s several teams in the NL alone that are close to them in talent and make it collectively difficult to just come out atop the NL: Mets, Phillies, Cubs, Giants, Padres, plus of course the Dodgers, who are clearly superior.

2. As a result, I don‘t think this is the season to go all-out trying to win another title, as far as trading for players or riding the star players so hard it could affect their future health. Thus, it is unlikely to make a difference whether Snit or someone else manages the rest of the season. The goal should be to build a winner for 2026 and beyond, with hopefully a fully healthy Acuna and Strider.

3. All of that doesn‘t mean that hope is lost for 2025, or that it can‘t be a fun season. 2023 was a lot of fun. 6 very entertaining months vs. 1 week of heartbreak. Nothing wrong with that.

 

[chop2chip]

Cowboy brought this up in the original post. It’s Snit not knowing (caring?) about how Strider’s bullpen went before the game that really struck me.

He doesn’t pay attention during games. Setting the Kelenic incident aside, Snitker’s only been thrown out of a game once the past two years. That’s pretty low for someone who describes himself as a Bobby Cox disciple who prides himself for fighting for his players.

He doesn’t build relationships with players. He’s made no progress connecting with Acuna over the past 7 years. And let’s be honest, who on the team does he connect with like he did with Freddie?

Now with the Strider comment, he doesn’t seem to know about the status of his players.

Exactly what aspect of his job can we point at and say “at least he’s doing that well”.

 

[Tapate50]

Not knowing where verdugo was ? What’s this nonsense

 

[Hulavol]

He’s not supposed to know where Verdugo is. That’s the bench coach.

 

[Super]

Just because a replacement may not be better doesn’t mean you keep a guy you know is terrible. Awful logic.

 

[Southcack77]

Firing coaches midseason has never really made any sense.

 

[bravesnumberone]

There is some sort of disconnect all around in that dugout. Between the whole Kelenic incident and the thing with Verdugo, terrible look. The literal point of a bench coach is looking ahead to the coming innings, anticipating what situations might come up, and making sure guys are ready to go.

 

[CyYoung31]

There is some sort of disconnect all around in that dugout. Between the whole Kelenic incident and the thing with Verdugo, terrible look. The literal point of a bench coach is looking ahead to the coming innings, anticipating what situations might come up, and making sure guys are ready to go.

That’s where we miss Ron Washington. He was a great bench coach.

 

[WaitingFor2017]

Not sure what Walt Weiss brings to the table, but there's a fraction of the fanbase who wants him as manager in 2026. I'm hoping AA just cleans house of this coaching staff and brings in his own guys.

 

[Hudson2]

Hell no to Walt

 

[DirkPiggler]

Snit has always hurt the team, and it tends to become very apparent in October when opposing managers run circles around him. He is a negative that the talent on the roster overcomes because the collection of talent is exceptional.

I never understood the "he's a great leader of men" narrative because I've never seen any indication he leads these men in any way. Players seem to treat him like the beloved grandpa who gets pats on the head for remembering to take his pills every morning. Being adored and leading effectively are not the same thing, though it's easy to confuse them.

He's needed to be gone for years, but now is not the time. His decisions are going to cost the team 1 win per month, and 1 win in a playoff series that most likely ends the season...just like every season. Nobody who could realistically take over for him right now will be any better, so what's the point other than to stir up drama?

I'm sure it's been said multiple times in the thread already, but firing Snitker midseason does nothing but enhance the possibility of the interim being named permanent replacement. Whoever would take over...Weiss, Perez, etc...would almost certainly see a bump in record due to the production of the players regressing (positively) to the mean. The front office would likely falsely attribute the team's surge to the new manager and end the possibility of bringing someone in from outside the organization for a fresh approach.

 

[Super]

I'm sure it's been said multiple times in the thread already, but firing Snitker midseason does nothing but enhance the possibility of the interim being named permanent replacement. Whoever would take over...Weiss, Perez, etc...would almost certainly see a bump in record due to the production of the players regressing (positively) to the mean. The front office would likely falsely attribute the team's surge to the new manager and end the possibility of bringing someone in from outside the organization for a fresh approach.

I doubt the front office would attribute that to the manager. Like, they’re not dumber than any of us. They understand.

 

[Carp]

Just because a replacement may not be better doesn’t mean you keep a guy you know is terrible. Awful logic.

If the replacements are also low quality, then as Enscheff, you are stirring up discontent while getting zero improvement from the move.

The worst thing you can do is make a move just a make a move.

 

[Carp]

I doubt the front office would attribute that to the manager. Like, they’re not dumber than any of us. They understand.

Yet it's happened quite frequently in history over multiple sports. Rob Thomson and John Schneider being the most recent examples of that in the MLB. Not to mention the players would likely roll their support behind the interim guy. And like it or not, the player's opinions do in fact matter to upper management.

 

[DirkPiggler]

I doubt the front office would attribute that to the manager. Like, they’re not dumber than any of us. They understand.

That's pretty much how Snitker became the full time manager.

 

[CyYoung31]

I doubt the front office would attribute that to the manager. Like, they’re not dumber than any of us. They understand.

That’s seeming debatable lately.