GDT #36: May 11, 2014 Cubs (Jackson) @ Braves (Le Grand Harang)
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Dalyn
Fredi Gonzalez Supporter
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
Cubs can suck
rico43
<B>Director of Minor League Reports</B>
That's why that week may have as much to do with the Braves winning the East this year as anything. Hard to imagine the Braves having another streak like that.
Geez, how much longer is Harang going to pitch this well. His contribution can't be understated. If he can hold out for another month or two that will basically ensure that Wood is starting for us come postseason time and even that may not be a given with teh way that Floyd could pitch.
sub 3 FIP with a K/9 over 9. Pretty amazing.
50PoundHead
Hessmania Forever
He could implode at any time, but I think anyone who complains about Harang at this point needs to mainline Metamucil. We are not where we're currently at without him.
Freddy Garcia? He was so much in demand that he's pitching in Taiwan.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
Hard to believe but true.
His K/9 innings numbers have gone up quite a bit from recent years:
2011 6.4
2012 6.5
2013 7.1
2014 9.7
His pitch selection has not changed much. His pitches look hittable. The only thing I can think of is maybe he has made a subtle change that is getting him some late movement that he wasn't getting in recent years. I also think the sample size for 2014 may still be small enough as to be unreliable guides. But the sample is no longer tiny and data for strikeout rates tend to stabilize pretty quickly.
I feel like his slider has a lot of late hard movement. I'm not surprised that he is getting all these strikeouts. I think also pitching in a pitcher friendly park has emboldened him to be more aggressive with his fastball. He couldn't elevate that pitch in cinny.
stpeteirish
Called Up to the Major Leagues
So who's more likely to "implode" Harang, coming off some bad years or Floyd, coming off Tommy John? I'm not sure.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
Yeah, but he's been pitching in San Diego, Seattle, LA in recent years. Pitcher friendly ballparks.
Julio3000
<B>A Chip Off the Old Rock</B>
That's the impression I had of him in CIN. Around the plate, fastballs up, lots of HRs.
He's throwing a two-seamer more often, and the slider and change less often. I don't know if we can expect the guy to keep giving up HR at practically a third of his career rates, but damn, I have to tip my cap to the big fella.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
Mainline Metamucil maybe the best phrase I've read on this board in some time.
Just reading through some of fangraphs stats today and noticed that Julio Teheran only has .5 WAR which is 65th out of all starting pitchers. These are the types of issues with WAR that I have. That is ridiculous. I don't care what his strand rate is. I don't care what his fly ball rate is or his strikeout rate. Teheran is a freakin stud.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
Teheran is getting dinged for the .188 BABIP and relatively high flyball rate. He also started out the season with some low strikeout games (13 in his first four games). His strikeout rate has been much better the last few games (29 in his last four starts).