GDT 8-19: White Sox-Braves Game 2

Wentz will came back to earth as will Waldrep. I don't really care about Wentz but Waldrep could be a really helpful piece going forward so hopefully when he does hit the skids he can re adjust.
 
Hudson2 said:
Wentz will came back to earth as will Waldrep. I don't really care about Wentz but Waldrep could be a really helpful piece going forward so hopefully when he does hit the skids he can re adjust.
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Wentz isn't this good, but I think he's made the necessary adjustments to think he could be a quality pitcher for us in some capacity. His command has been pretty excellent in Atlanta.
 
Hudson2 said:
Wentz will came back to earth as will Waldrep. I don't really care about Wentz but Waldrep could be a really helpful piece going forward so hopefully when he does hit the skids he can re adjust.
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Of course. But they are hot now. I think Waldrep looks like a middle of the rotation starter and Wentz as a long reliever/#5 SP. I am legitimately worried the front office will now say we dont need anymore SP.
 
No way they can possibly think that…. It’s third week of August and we have ZERO SP left. Strider sure as hell isn’t one, neither is Elder.
 
August is like the 2023 offense returned. Even without Acuna mashing. Profar and Money Mike over 200 RC. Olson and Ozuna 150 RC. Even Nacho has managed a 102 RC. Then theres Sean Murphy. .029/.175/.029 He is barely breaking .200...........OPS. Thats even wose than Melvin.
 
cajunrevenge said:
August is like the 2023 offense returned. Even without Acuna mashing. Profar and Money Mike over 200 RC. Olson and Ozuna 150 RC. Even Nacho has managed a 102 RC. Then theres Sean Murphy. .029/.175/.029 He is barely breaking .200...........OPS. Thats even wose than Melvin.
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Except that Murphy’s slump won’t last.
 
cajunrevenge said:
Of course. But they are hot now. I think Waldrep looks like a middle of the rotation starter and Wentz as a long reliever/#5 SP. I am legitimately worried the front office will now say we dont need anymore SP.
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I could see Wentz in the bullpen next year if he keeps this up and be a depth option for the rotation but aren't we his 3rd or 4th team this year?
 
Hudson2 said:
I could see Wentz in the bullpen next year if he keeps this up and be a depth option for the rotation but aren't we his 3rd or 4th team this year?
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Overall this year and last he put up a high 4 ERA with a low 4 FIP. He really just needed to improve a little bit to be useful. What has changed is he went from well below average extension to elite extension. Going from 24th percentile to 99%. That means he releases the ball closer to home. If he can maintain anything close to that in the future we got something. Plenty of good pitchers went through a few teams before figuring it out.
 
cajunrevenge said:
Overall this year and last he put up a high 4 ERA with a low 4 FIP. He really just needed to improve a little bit to be useful. What has changed is he went from well below average extension to elite extension. Going from 24th percentile to 99%. That means he releases the ball closer to home. If he can maintain anything close to that in the future we got something. Plenty of good pitchers went through a few teams before figuring it out.
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I don’t fully buy Wentz as anything but long relief yet, but the last sentence is why I think it’s soy when people complain everytime AA brings in journeyman pitchers. You can’t completely rely on that formula, obviously, but the Braves themselves rehab pitchers to great effect all the time. Pierce Johnson and Dylan Lee are prime examples currently.
 
Hudson2 said:
I could see Wentz in the bullpen next year if he keeps this up and be a depth option for the rotation but aren't we his 3rd or 4th team this year?
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Yes, we made an adjustment when he came here. He's getting way more extension and he's changed his grip on his cutter and is seeing better results on that pitch.

It could be short lived. But his expected stats are still pretty solid.
 
I liked Wentz when he was coming up with Allard and Soroka.. so by god you can't take him away too... don't make me go get my pitch forks again.

He will be the Braves ace for years to come, damnit and don't freaking argue with me about it.
 
bravesfanMatt said:
I liked Wentz when he was coming up with Allard and Soroka.. so by god you can't take him away too... don't make me go get my pitch forks again.

He will be the Braves ace for years to come, damnit and don't freaking argue with me about it.
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Touki and Gohara were in that group too. One of these needs to be heading toward a Cy Young, if not Cooperstown… so I’m with you. Joey is the Ace upon which our pitching foundation for the future shall be built.
 
bravesfanMatt said:
I liked Wentz when he was coming up with Allard and Soroka.. so by god you can't take him away too... don't make me go get my pitch forks again.

He will be the Braves ace for years to come, damnit and don't freaking argue with me about it.
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Wentz came in with Muller, Ian Anderson and Tucker Davidson
 
CyYoung31 said:
I don’t fully buy Wentz as anything but long relief yet, but the last sentence is why I think it’s soy when people complain everytime AA brings in journeyman pitchers. You can’t completely rely on that formula, obviously, but the Braves themselves rehab pitchers to great effect all the time. Pierce Johnson and Dylan Lee are prime examples currently.
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I think we are on the same page. I dont fully buy it either. But I do know we probably need 10 SP next year and we cou,ld do a lot worse.
 
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