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thethe said:
Denominator is much lower. The percentage is much higher. You may need a whole study done to speak the obvious b
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You’re still not providing a number. Give me the percentage you say justifies the public safety threat posed by all trans people not being sent to hospitals.
 
Spencer Cox confirmed trans boyfriend report.

Anyone here still thinking this kid was a Groyper meme lord who murdered Kirk for not being far right enough?
 
Jaw said:
Off topic, but I recently re-read the book in the Master and Commander series (amazing books by the way) where Dr. Maturin goes ashore in the Galapagos. That got me thinking of evolution, which got me thinking of human evolution.

Has it occurred to anyone else that all of our assistance programs for people unable to provide for themselves actually cause our species to evolve backwards? Every other species and our own until the last couple of centuries improved by the strong surviving and excelling. Now, those who require the most help also do the most reproducing. Perhaps we should solve hunger in impoverished places with reversible chemical castration instead of trailers full of food? Maybe Mr. Beast should give out maps and compasses to help people in freaking deserts find where water is, instead of digging hundreds of feet to find it for them?
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Absolutely. The aid we give to worthless countries makes the problem worse.

They need to figure it out or be left behind. Its not like the knowledge isn't there
 
Jaw said:
Off topic, but I recently re-read the book in the Master and Commander series (amazing books by the way) where Dr. Maturin goes ashore in the Galapagos. That got me thinking of evolution, which got me thinking of human evolution.

Has it occurred to anyone else that all of our assistance programs for people unable to provide for themselves actually cause our species to evolve backwards? Every other species and our own until the last couple of centuries improved by the strong surviving and excelling. Now, those who require the most help also do the most reproducing. Perhaps we should solve hunger in impoverished places with reversible chemical castration instead of trailers full of food? Maybe Mr. Beast should give out maps and compasses to help people in freaking deserts find where water is, instead of digging hundreds of feet to find it for them?
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In terms of evolution itself, I think you can kind of throw a lot of it out given the way society itself has evolved. Does a church helping its community disrupt evolution similarly? Do the tools, machines and systems we’ve created to survive do that? Medicine and education that help us live longer?

On a practical societal level, I agree with you that this would be the correct course of action. I don’t think the reasons we don’t just do that are particularly noble, though. If we give developing countries the resources to sustainably improve their condition, we rid them of their need for our help and lose influence over them. Then they manage their own resources and we need to use big, expensive guns to take them.
 
mqt said:
You’re still not providing a number. Give me the percentage you say justifies the public safety threat posed by all trans people not being sent to hospitals.
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I have posted the data on these boards and I'll try to.dig them up. IIRC, trans committed murder at more than 2x the next highest demo (black)

Additionally, trans people are murdered at half the rate that the rest of the population is

They are not victims. They are a problem
 
mqt said:
I’m still 100% with you guys on the tragedy of Kirk’s shooting, happy to engage with you on common sense solutions to reduce the senseless political violence and am even open to continuing to explore the link between gender dysphoria and other types of mental illness that lead to these outcomes, but you’re just talking about blatant government abuses here.
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I don’t think it’s government’s problem. I solely blame the psych, medical, insurance, and academia groups. As to who can fix it besides government? I don’t know. A federal law banning all affirming treatment could help I guess, but the problem people in those industries will still be there and fighting it like the DEI grifters already are in academia.
 
Denver Shooter: TRANS
Aberdeen Shooter: TRANS
Nashville Shooter: TRANS
Philadelphia Shooter: TRANS
Colorado Springs Shooter: Non-Binary
Iowa Shooter: Gender Fluid
Minneapolis Shooter: TRANS
Charlie Kirk Shooter: TRANS-partner

At this point any shooting that happens, I'll probably default to assuming this until proven otherwise.

They will continue to get more desperate as the culture continues to turn on them. Expect more

As jaw says, we must as a society stop affirming this madness
 
mqt said:
To be completely fair, while we did fuck this one up, he does kind of have a punchable face. We don’t need to sugar coat that just because he didn’t deserve to be punched.
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I dont think, as an adult, I've ever described any teenager as having a punchable face
 
sturg33 said:
I have posted the data on these boards and I'll try to.dig them up. IIRC, trans committed murder at more than 2x the next highest demo (black)

Additionally, trans people are murdered at half the rate that the rest of the population is

They are not victims. They are a problem
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Do you realize how extraordinarily small that doubled number is, though? When you double a fraction of a percent, you don’t suddenly end up with a national emergency that requires locking everybody up.
 
sturg33 said:
Denver Shooter: TRANS
Aberdeen Shooter: TRANS
Nashville Shooter: TRANS
Philadelphia Shooter: TRANS
Colorado Springs Shooter: Non-Binary
Iowa Shooter: Gender Fluid
Minneapolis Shooter: TRANS
Charlie Kirk Shooter: TRANS-partner

At this point any shooting that happens, I'll probably default to assuming this until proven otherwise.

They will continue to get more desperate as the culture continues to turn on them. Expect more

As jaw says, we must as a society stop affirming this madness
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There have been multiple mass shootings *since* Kirk’s assassination that weren’t perpetrated by trans people. But you’re of course always welcome to let your emotions steer you toward an inaccurate conclusion so long as we don’t start violating liberties because of it. In America, if you can actually list the specific shootings done by a group, that group isn’t doing very many of them.
 
Jaw said:
I don’t think it’s government’s problem. I solely blame the psych, medical, insurance, and academia groups. As to who can fix it besides government? I don’t know. A federal law banning all affirming treatment could help I guess, but the problem people in those industries will still be there and fighting it like the DEI grifters already are in academia.
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I still find this chilling from a civil liberties perspective. There is no good data suggesting a national security risk is presented by the continuance of care for trans adults, and no current medical evidence strongly suggesting this isn’t the best course of care. Why should the federal government be able to tell a consenting adult they cannot get care as prescribed by the doctor? Which medical care should we let the government decide is wrong?

I won’t try to convince you the science is right, but on a practical level, where is the line?
 
Tapate50 said:
Empathy for only certain ones it seems
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I’d feel bad if he were punched in the face and wouldn’t ever advocate for punching him in the face. So I am comfortable with holding this view about the appearance of his face. That David Hogg kid has a punchable face too.
 
sturg33 said:
I dont think, as an adult, I've ever described any teenager as having a punchable face
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On contrary, I have and will describe every teenager as having a punchable face. The unbridled optimism as I suffer through the throes of 50 hour work weeks with two young kids is triggering.
 
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