Is Free Speech Under Attack in this Country?
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There were a lot more than 3 officers there. Try a few hundred.
Yes, some were chanting harm. I would have been too if I would have been standing there protesting peacefully and getting rubber bullets/flash grenades for my. trouble. They had plenty opportunity to harm while inside but didn't.
Or the more likely reason was that they were actually waiting until something that was an actual threat.
The only one who shot was the one guy who had a reckless track record.
Outside the barricaded door? No there wasn't. There were 3 officers against a mob. They stood aside, the window was broken. Babbitt was lifted up and tried to get in. She was told to stop or they would shoot. Several people yelled that he had a gun. Babbitt continued and was shot.
No, but if you want to justify killing an unarmed woman then that's your right but not a legal one.
However, instead of feelings and FAFO stuff that has nothing to do with the legal system I'm going by the law.
As I showed above with Turley's legal opinion that there's no way anyway can justify one unarmed woman getting shot in a window with several officers in the area. There is no imminent threat.
As Turley said with this whacky thought process that came out of the investigation cops can open fire every time a protestor tries to trespass and occupy a building.
chop2chip
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Would you justify shooting a crazy person that was trying to break into your house through a window? In this scenario you do not know if she does or does not carry a weapon
The imminent threat is a couple thousand angry people breaking into a government building, many threatening harm against the people the officers were trying to protect, and even the officers themselves.
A personal residence is not the same as a public building.
The US Capitol is not exactly your average public building. I was honestly surprised the Secret Service didn't take matters into their own hands a lot earlier.
How do you suppose the Secret Service would deal with a crazy person trying to break into the White House, a government building?
Most of these people were invited in.
You don't understand what imminent means under the law. It means this very second. There were two cops on Babbitt's side of the door who left the area. Why didn't those two cops do anything?
The doors were NOT compromised. That's why she crawled through a window.
We had that exact situation happen during the Floyd Riots. The president was escorted to a bunker.
The Secret Service didn't shoot anyone.
Three cops, not 2.
And I will post this again since apparently you missed it the first time:
Probably because:
1. There were 3 officers against a couple thousand protestors. So their options were pretty limited. And they likely valued their own safety as the rioters were already threatening them. We know for a fact several rioters absolutely intended to harm lawmakers, so it seems like they were correct in assuming there was an active threat.
2. It was pandemonium and communication likely was poor, as it tends to be during a riot.
Not a single person was on the White House lawn during the Floyd riots.
Why do you insist on blatantly lying?
There were 3 on one side and 2 on the other. The 2, on Babbit's side left a few minutes before the shooting.
I could have been mistaken how far they got but don't call me a liar you bootlicking twerp.
If anyone rushed the White House in a threatening way, they would be shot on site, no questions asked.
Nope
The Omar Gonzalez incident (2014)
- A U.S. Army veteran jumped the White House fence, ran across the lawn, and entered the front door, making it to the East Room before being apprehended by security.
- The incident prompted the resignation of the Secret Service Director and spurred a security review.
At the time, the USCP was evacuating Members from the Chamber, which the mob was trying to enter from multiple doorways. USCP officers used furniture to barricade a set of glass doors separating the hallway and Speaker’s Lobby to try and stop the mob from entering the Speaker’s Lobby and the Chamber, and three officers positioned themselves between the doors and the mob. Members of the mob attempted to break through the doors by striking them and breaking the glass with their hands, flagpoles, helmets, and other objects. Eventually, the three USCP officers positioned outside the doors were forced to evacuate. As members of the mob continued to strike the glass doors, Ms. Babbitt attempted to climb through one of the doors where glass was broken out. An officer inside the Speaker’s Lobby fired one round from his service pistol, striking Ms. Babbitt in the left shoulder, causing her to fall back from the doorway and onto the floor.
Well yeah, that is under Weak on Crime Obummer.