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acesfull86 said:
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/kristi-noem-corey-lewandowski-dhs-fema-trump-enforcers.html

Another of Noem’s deputies is Madison Sheahan, 28, who just six years ago was the captain of the rowing team at Ohio State University and who now is the deputy director of ICE. “For the most part, every entity in ICE reports to me,” Sheahan told me in an interview at ICE headquarters in southwest Washington. Sheahan is broad-shouldered with a punishing handshake. She told me she doesn’t sweat the controversial parts of her job. “I understand that everyone wants to poke holes and say we aren’t perfect, and we aren’t,” she said. “But we’ll never know how much ICE prevented — the number of kids that we’ve saved and families that we’ve saved.”

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Some ICE officials call Sheahan “Fish Cop” behind her back because of her previous stint running the Department of Wildlife and Fisheries in Louisiana. Sheahan knows there are people who think that, without any law-enforcement background, she isn’t qualified for a job usually occupied by veteran ICE officials. “I absolutely think I’m qualified for the job,” she told me. “Because at the end of the day, what really makes anybody qualified for any job?”

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Is this MAGA’s idea of what the world looks like when we ignore the “experts?”

Someone tell me with a straight face that if this were posted under the previous regime, it wouldn’t have been met with mockery, presented as evidence of incompetence, and followed with pile on calling this woman a DEI hire.
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She is a DEI hire. In the current regime, the unqualified count as a protected class that has been hurt by past discrimination.
 
mqt said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1971521042461127156

Oh, and I was giving the right too much credit here by even accepting their claim as true.
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I'm confused exactly what you think counters the narrative.

'After the riot started' is vague language and they were not donned with FBI apparel for a reason. To incite.....

The language also doesn't specify the count before and after so again I'm confused at what gotcha is here.

Probably just for the ones that still think 2020 was a fair election.
 
Women should not be leading law enforcement efforts in any walk of life.

Stupid things still happen during the Trump admin.
 
thethe said:
I'm confused exactly what you think counters the narrative.

'After the riot started' is vague language and they were not donned with FBI apparel for a reason. To incite.....

The language also doesn't specify the count before and after so again I'm confused at what gotcha is here.

Probably just for the ones that still think 2020 was a fair election.
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The “gotcha” is that it’s being stated by Trump and the right that this is clear evidence that the FBI had embedded hundreds of agents to agitate the crowds toward violence. If they were called in to respond to an ongoing riot at the Capitol, that doesn’t suggest an inside job, which is the claim being made, but rather that they used FBI agents as crowd control. Whether that’s a good use of FBI agents or not is an open question, but not the one being asked by Trump.
 
mqt said:
The “gotcha” is that it’s being stated by Trump and the right that this is clear evidence that the FBI had embedded hundreds of agents to agitate the crowds toward violence. If they were called in to respond to an ongoing riot at the Capitol, that doesn’t suggest an inside job, which is the claim being made, but rather that they used FBI agents as crowd control. Whether that’s a good use of FBI agents or not is an open question, but not the one being asked by Trump.
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Yet the number of who responded or when the riot “started” is intentionally vague.
If you’re responding to a riot then why come in plainclothes? That seems counter intuitive unless the goal is to agitate and entrap.
 
thethe said:
Yet the number of who responded or when the riot “started” is intentionally vague.
If you’re responding to a riot then why come in plainclothes? That seems counter intuitive unless the goal is to agitate and entrap.
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That puts us back to where we were before the news, though. The claim was that J6 was an inside job, and the agents on-site were used as a smoking gun by Trump and his surrogates. But it’s not a smoking gun at all, and the fact that Patel has characterized the surge of agents as crowd control in response to the riot already in place seems to suggest it’s not what you’re claiming it to be.
 
mqt said:
That puts us back to where we were before the news, though. The claim was that J6 was an inside job, and the agents on-site were used as a smoking gun by Trump and his surrogates. But it’s not a smoking gun at all, and the fact that Patel has characterized the surge of agents as crowd control in response to the riot already in place seems to suggest it’s not what you’re claiming it to be.
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No it doesn’t - we know fbi embedded plain clothed agents in the crowd. And we now know it was a large number despite when they said they “started”.
 
Further, the fbi already showed their hand with whitmer. Let’s not act like this isn’t something they’d do.
 
thethe said:
Further, the fbi already showed their hand with whitmer. Let’s not act like this isn’t something they’d do.
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You don’t need to sell me on the concept that cops would entrap people or be secretive. But you’re not describing a set of details that proves a conspiracy. You’re taking a vague set of details from the event and extrapolating heavily to fit your narrative.
 
Also, I love the Whitmer plot thing because entrapment is a serious problem, but that’s an issue for the courts to hash out when determining if the rights of the accused were violated in a way that makes them less legally culpable. But you guys have just decided that the actual people that decided they were on board with kidnapping and harming a Governor were actually innocent lambs and MAGA doesn’t do violence. If you get entrapped on a plot to kidnap someone or do a riot, you still did violence even if you aren’t held legally accountable for it. It’s a cop problem too, but doesn’t absolve them of their part morally.
 
https://twitter.com/x/status/1972553726809538704

To wit: if your spouse left you because you committed a misdemeanor due to the results of a Presidential election, it is not the fault of FBI agents for “tricking” you into participating, and given the benign nature of his crime here and the small amount of time he was incarcerated, I’m going to go out on a limb and say his wife was already looking for a reason and found one. I have a lot of empathy for J6ers that were overcharged and/or had unacceptable pre-trial conditions, but this is just a guy who doesn’t want to accept consequences for his actions.
 
Tapate50 said:
It’s a bad decision.

And it can be true even if it’s “not for you”
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How so? You’re still going to watch the Super Bowl, and now a Bad Bunny fan who might not have watched any of the Super Bowl might do so. The halftime show is an advertising stunt. If they can pick up some new demographics through the performer, it’s a win for the league and its advertising partners.
 
I haven’t watched a Super Bowl or any other NFL game since Beyoncé’s stripper performance years ago. It’s supposed to be a family event and kids shouldn’t be seeing that. We turned it off about two minutes in. I won’t sit there and watch it while telling my girls it’s inappropriate.
 
mqt said:
How so? You’re still going to watch the Super Bowl, and now a Bad Bunny fan who might not have watched any of the Super Bowl might do so. The halftime show is an advertising stunt. If they can pick up some new demographics through the performer, it’s a win for the league and its advertising partners.
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What major demo is being attracted by bad bunny?

I don’t really care, but it’s an easy call with almost any legendary performer being an easy call.

Like it’s hard to make a bad decision and they did
 
Tapate50 said:
What major demo is being attracted by bad bunny?

I don’t really care, but it’s an easy call with almost any legendary performer being an easy call.

Like it’s hard to make a bad decision and they did
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It’s not about drawing new demos. There has been a crusade for 40 years to get America to embrace rap and the worst parts of the culture that fuels it. I’ll refrain from saying who leads the crusade and what their motivations might be in the hopes that others will look it up for themselves and wonder, but it’s all part of the same plan we’ve seen playing out elsewhere to destabilize American culture.

If someone really wants to make America great again, preventing companies from owning both the production and distribution of media would be a great place to start.
 
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