Second ('Third') Trump Presidency Thread

[thethe]

Following Dear Leader’s demands over written policy is kind of how fascism works.

No that’s actually the structure of our government. Legislative and judicial branch doesn’t have to listen though.

 

[mqt]

That’s great - it’s a stupid law and nobody should be burning the flag.

Hope someone sues the government and the idiotic interpretation is overruled.

We cannot accept the President using Executive Orders to create new crimes, particularly when that law is currently unconstitutional. We have a legislative branch for this.

 

[mqt]

No that’s actually the structure of our government. Legislative and judicial branch doesn’t have to listen though.

I’m not arguing that he can’t do it, I’m arguing that he shouldn’t. And that the reason firing someone for refusing to make a public spectacle of arresting your political enemies is wrong is because it’s what a fascist would do.

 

[thethe]

I’m not arguing that he can’t do it, I’m arguing that he shouldn’t. And that the reason firing someone for refusing to make a public spectacle of arresting your political enemies is wrong is because it’s what a fascist would do.

A political enemy yes.

Also, a criminal who has been definitely shown to commit egregious crimes. One they deserved a perp walk for how he abused his power. No better example to make a spectacle.

The issue is you think comey did nothing nefarious or wrong.

 

[thethe]

We cannot accept the President using Executive Orders to create new crimes, particularly when that law is currently unconstitutional. We have a legislative branch for this.

We understand it’s all process and not end results. Trump is doing this because it’s nonsensical for a country to tolerate anyone burning the flag. The whole point of the country is indentification around common ideology/history.

It’s very clear the intention of flag burning and it’s not to save “America”. It’s to rip her to the shreds.

 

[mqt]

For some reason, the MAGA cult seems to have this weird idea that fascism is some sort of illegal thing. You are allowed to do fascist things, so it’s not particularly compelling to argue against claims of fascism with “well he’s the leader of the Executive branch” and thus he can do whatever he wants. If that thing he wants to do is fascist in nature, it doesn’t change that.

 

[mqt]

We understand it’s all process and not end results. Trump is doing this because it’s nonsensical for a country to tolerate anyone burning the flag. The whole point of the country is indication around common ideology history.

It’s very clear the intention of flag burning and it’s not to save “America”. It’s to rip her to the shreds.

Then let the American people decide that by urging their member of Congress to pass a law. Also, the whole point of the country is not that.

 

[thethe]

Then let the American people decide that by urging their member of Congress to pass a law. Also, the whole point of the country is not that.

Yes a “country” has ALWAYS meant shared ideology and history. The warped experiment the globalists have launched the last fifty years is not the way it has to be.

The disagreements had now are so fundamentally rooted in basic morality that it is to the point we can’t share the same spaces. Especially if your voting impacts my life.

 

[thethe]

Then let the American people decide that by urging their member of Congress to pass a law. Also, the whole point of the country is not that.

This process is actually an intended consequence of our system of government. The executive can initiate action to get results.

The people decide via their congressional votes and how they views the presidents oversteps. Candidates can run on impeachment and let the people decide.

 

[mqt]

Yes a “country” has ALWAYS meant shared ideology and history. The warped experiment the globalists have launched the last fifty years is not the way it has to be.

It was really more for shared protection and centralized collection of resources.

 

[mqt]

This process is actually an intended consequence of our system of government. The executive can initiate action to get results.

The people decide via their congressional votes and how they views the presidents oversteps. Candidates can run on impeachment and let the people decide.

I look forward to you maintaining this incredible mentality when a Dem is in office next.

 

[thethe]

I look forward to you maintaining this incredible mentality when a Dem is in office next.

The country is against you - it’s going to be a long long time.

These types of “threats” are silly as the dems already do this. You just don’t like when we punch back.

 

[thethe]

It was really more for shared protection and centralized collection of resources.

And they were always shared ideology and history. Not the clusterfuck we see today in the west.

 

[mqt]

The country is against you - it’s going to be a long long time.

These types of “threats” are silly as the dems already do this. You just don’t like when we punch back.

Please feel free to show me the last time a President dictated a new federal law that carried with it a defined prison sentence for constitutionally protected conduct.

 

[mqt]

And they were always shared ideology and history. Not the clusterfuck we see today in the west.

More of a secondary consideration than a primary intention. People didn’t join the Romans to share in their ideology and history, they did it to gain protection from Rome.

 

[thethe]

Please feel free to show me the last time a President dictated a new federal law that carried with it a defined prison sentence for constitutionally protected conduct.

Dems “overstep” boundaries of power all the time. The semantics of the specific cases is irrelevant. Nobody would think the Dems are restrained when in power.

 

[thethe]

More of a secondary consideration than a primary intention. People didn’t join the Romans to share in their ideology and history, they did it to gain protection from Rome.

And they all had a basic understanding of morality stemming from a common belief system.

 

[mqt]

Dems “overstep” boundaries of power all the time. The semantics of the specific cases is irrelevant. Nobody would think the Dems are restrained when in power.

Your response to your side overstepping shouldn’t be “step harder, Daddy.”

 

[thethe]

Your response to your side overstepping shouldn’t be “step harder, Daddy.”

Yes - that’s exactly what the response should be actually.

 

[mqt]

And they all had a basic understanding of morality stemming from a common belief system.

That basic understanding of morality was implemented by Rome doing a bunch of murdering and kidnapping until the new tribes acquiesced.