Second ('Third') Trump Presidency Thread

thethe said:
I don't believe in stats released by groups who have proven to manipulate those stats. You kinow like 800K fake jobs (at least) or DC crime data being manipulated.

You know these truths but can't accept what these truths mean and how it makes your worldview look foolish.
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you brought this up in the context of a discussion of crime in London...yet another example of your fundamental inability to have an honest discussion...what does the police chief fudging crime statistics in DC have to do with homicide rates in London...the one crime statistic that is hardest to fake is homicide rates...you have a body and a coroners report...hard to fake those numbers
 
nsacpi said:
you brought this up in the context of a discussion of crime in London...yet another example of you fundamental inability to have an honest discussion...what does the DC police chief fudging crime statistics in DC have to do with homicide rates in London...the one crime statistic that is hardest to fake is homicide rates...you have a body and a coroners report...hard to fake those numbers
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Because its the ideology that is forcing them to do this. When the underlying real data doesn't support their worldview they must alter the figures.

Have you learned about the three legs of the fraud triangle?

And why again should anyone in UK's system be trusted for crime stats when they hid the groomer gangs impact for a decade+?
 
thethe said:
Because its the ideology that is forcing them to do this. When the underlying real data doesn't support their worldview they must alter the figures.

Have you learned about the three legs of the fraud triangle?
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The London homicide rate is what it is. Unfortunately, it contradicts the narrative you would like to push about Muslims and immigrants.
 
nsacpi said:
The London homicide rate is what it is. Unfortunately, it contradicts the narrative you would like to push about Muslims and immigrants.
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Homocides are the most difficult to fudge.

Fortunately, I never said they were lying about their murder rates.

What is the UK's governemnt record on grooming gangs? Care to engage in that one?
 
thethe said:
Homocides are the most difficult to fudge.

Fortunately, I never said they were lying about their murder rates.

What is the UK's governemnt record on grooming gangs? Care to engage in that one?
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I'm happy to engage in data-based discussion about any and all topics. Have you not noticed? Facts are a liberating thang. Unless one is married to a narrative.

And yes you did try to discount the data on London homicide rates with that wild pivot to DC crime statistics. Have the grace to acknowledge it.
 
nsacpi said:
you and thethe are the guys who 1) don't believe stats unless they tell a story you like and 2) don't think trump should be blamed for bad thangs that happened in 2025 but want to give him credit for the good thangs

thanks for playing
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Let’s play-

What stats should we look at on gas?

Axios- a left leaning outlet released those murder numbers, not a democrat run city fudging numbers trying to CYA.

So basically a lefty site telling us murders are down 20% the largest drop ever. I’m sure we can find a right leaning site that’s more impressive drop, but I was giving you a few here.

Markets all time highs-

Is there a debate here or ? The numbers like gas prices speak for themselves


Thanks for playing what exactly?
 
nsacpi said:
I'm happy to engage in data-based discussion about any and all topics. Have you not noticed? Facts are a liberating thang. Unless one is married to a narrative.

And yes you did try to discount the data on London homicide rates with that wild pivot to DC crime statistics. Have the grace to acknowledge it.
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Refer to the post in question because if I did that was in error as homocides can't be created or covered up.

All other crime stats though...

And we already know the UK's government is not willing to protect its native girls against foreign grooming gangs. Once you're willing to lie about little girls being raped what exactly wouldn't you lie about?
 
Tapate50 said:
Let’s play-

What stats should we look at on gas?

Axios- a left leaning outlet released those murder numbers, not a democrat run city fudging numbers trying to CYA.

So basically a lefty site telling us murders are down 20% the largest drop ever. I’m sure we can find a right leaning site that’s more impressive drop, but I was giving you a few here.

Markets all time highs-

Is there a debate here or ? The numbers like gas prices speak for themselves


Thanks for playing what exactly?
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This should be fun. The gas data I look at are these:



I don't think I've engaged in any discussion with you or anyone else about the direction of gas prices. But I look forward to you enlightening me and correcting any misinformed views I might hold on the matter. Have at it.
 
thethe said:
Refer to the post in question because if I did that was in error as homocides can't be created or covered up.
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the relevant discussion is on page 503 of this thread

but I do need to acknowledge that it was tap who thought DC fudging some numbers had relevance to the London homicide data

you took a different tack: the religion of the mayor of London having relevance to the homicide data

I would respectfully submit that neither of those things matter when it comes to the fact that London homicide rates have fallen to their lowest level since the data have been kept and that this has happened at a time when its Muslim and immigrant population shares are at their highest levels ever...those are hard indisputable facts that no amount of misdirection on your part can change
 
thethe said:
Homocides are the most difficult to fudge.

Fortunately, I never said they were lying about their murder rates.

What is the UK's governemnt record on grooming gangs? Care to engage in that one?
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SMH, the gay agenda is so extreme they’re even taking over the murders.
 
nsacpi said:
This should be fun. The gas data I look at are these:



I don't think I've engaged in any discussion with you or anyone else about the direction of gas prices. But I look forward to you enlightening me and correcting any misinformed views I might hold on the matter. Have at it.
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Highest gas price recorded 6/14/22

Yikes Joe! Good vote cast BL!

Fun indeed!

It’s either intentional or malpractice, no in between
 
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