The Siege of Minneapolis

nsacpi said:
It bears repeating that the data we have show immigrants (and undocumented immigrants) have lower incarceration rates than the native born. To the extent profiling based on accent or immigration status makes sense, it would be to target the native-born population.
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How about wellfare?

Please make the case why we should desire an immigrant who requires welfare?
 
sturg33 said:
How about wellfare?

Please make the case why we should desire an immigrant who requires welfare?
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I don't desire anyone to be on welfare. As a country we set those rules. You don't like some of them. I don't like some of them. That's how the cookie crumbles. Vote. Make your preferences known. And have the grace to accept it when thangs don't go your way.
 
nsacpi said:
I don't desire anyone to be on welfare. As a country we set those rules. You don't like some of them. I don't like some of them. That's how the cookie crumbles. Vote. Make your preferences known. And have the grace to accept it when thangs don't go your way.
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Can you make the case it's a good thing or not?
 
nsacpi said:
It bears repeating that the data we have show immigrants (and undocumented immigrants) have lower incarceration rates than the native born. To the extent profiling based on accent or immigration status makes sense, it would be to target the native-born population.
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lol - We also have many cases of immigrants being labeled as white citizens in crime data - We also have documented cases of inner cities not tracking crime properly showing their leftist bias.
 
sturg33 said:
Can you make the case it's a good thing or not?
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Yes. I favor public expenditures on the education of immigrants and their children. The downstream benefits are enormous. Always have been. And continue to be. For every racial and ethnic group of immigrants.
 
nsacpi said:
Yes. I favor public expenditures on the education of immigrants and their children. The downstream benefits are enormous. Always have been. And continue to be. For every racial and ethnic group of immigrants.
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Youre an idiot, and "the downstream benefits are enormous" is not an argument.

Explain to my why an 80 IQ Somalian who is on wellfare to survive helps our country, outside of their amazing daycare skills
 
sturg33 said:
Youre an idiot, and "the downstream benefits are enormous" is not an argument.

Explain to my why an 80 IQ Somalian who is on wellfare to survive helps our country, outside of their amazing daycare skills
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It is the kind of argument worth making when discussing public policy. We are always weighing costs and benefits. And it is often intertemporal. With the costs up front and the benefits downstream at some point in the future.

As for the particular Somalian you reference, it is silly to try to make policy about an individual outcome. You look at the overall effects of a set of policies. There will always be some good and bad outcomes that people from either side can cherry pick. It may be great fun to point to some visually spectacular social media post, but those are not serious arguments.
 
nsacpi said:
It is the kind of argument worth making when discussing public policy. We are always weighing costs and benefits. And it is often intertemporal. With the costs up front and the benefits downstream at some point in the future.

As for the particular Somalian you reference, it is silly to try to make policy about an individual outcome. You look at the overall effects of a set of policies. There will always be some good and bad outcomes that people from either side can cherry pick.
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Ok... over 80% of Somalian immigrants in Minneapolis are on wellfare. Show me the data that the other 20% offer higher benefit than the burden of 80%
 
thethe said:
lol - We also have many cases of immigrants being labeled as white citizens in crime data - We also have documented cases of inner cities not tracking crime properly showing their leftist bias.
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They also may not get the opportunity to serve jail time. Especially in blue areas
 
Tapate50 said:
They also may not get the opportunity to serve jail time. Especially in blue areas
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It’s amusing when someone tries to prrrend that immigrants are better in any area than the native western society individuals. It never holds true in any country.
 
Guy is still using results despite knowing how much the taxpayer subsidizes the immigrant both individually and with their employers.

Without the work of the white man tbe immigrant would be even more of a drain kn our society if thats even possible.
 
Tapate50 said:
Libs - Does interrupting a place of worship and impeding an investigation to grab a child sex predator make you the good guys ?
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With respect to the first, I think the disruption of the church services is unacceptable.

With respect to the second, it is the job of the police to protect us against criminals and child sex predators. ICE may claim whatever they want but that's not their job. Unfortunately, given their history of false statements anything they claim is suspect. If I'm a demonstrator I'm not cutting them any slack based on what they say.
 
nsacpi said:
With respect to the first, I think the disruption of the church services is unacceptable.

With respect to the second, it is the job of the police to protect us against criminals and child sex predators. ICE may claim whatever they want but that's not their job. Unfortunately, given their history of false statements anything they claim is suspect. If I'm a demonstrator I'm not cutting them any slack based on what they say.
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They are here illegally which makes it their priority. Obviously their Minny PD cant or won’t act.

If apprehended by Minneapolis PD with a deportation order or hold order, they’d have been let free.

I can easily see how your liberal ideas are overall harmful. How can you not ?
 
nsacpi said:
With respect to the first, I think the disruption of the church services is unacceptable.

With respect to the second, it is the job of the police to protect us against criminals and child sex predators. ICE may claim whatever they want but that's not their job. Unfortunately, given their history of false statements anything they claim is suspect. If I'm a demonstrator I'm not cutting them any slack based on what they say.
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In what universe is this not under the federal governemnts jurisdiction?
 
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