2025-2026 offseason thread

Enscheff said:
Sorry, but that's pure trickle down nonsense. These people could have become plumbers or electricians or forklift operators or any other skilled/semi-skilled labor if trade schools were easily accessible to them.

Let's stop acting like Walmart helps these people for any reason other than the fact training a workforce helps them make more profit so rich people get even richer. If it was 1 cent more profitable to not train their own people, they wouldn't. If it were 1 cent more profitable to not treat people well for employee retention, they would not hesitate to let them all walk.
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You misunderstand my position. They aren't helping people out of altruism. I never said they were. But their presence gives low skill workers, many of whom don't have the aptitude or ambition to work in the trades, a place to work. Surely you don't think that the lady who is 50 pounds overweight is going to climb ladders to run conduit or crawl under houses to unclog drains. But she can work a register, stock shelves, etc. The presence of a Walmart store gives those people a place to work, and also keeps prices lower versus the local businesses they replace (whether that's good or bad for a community is an entirely different debate).

I can't speak for the entire country, but where I live and in the geographical footprint my business serves, there are plenty of affordable and accessible trade schools. Every plumbing, HVAC, or electrical company is short handed. Not everyone has the desire to maximize their earning potential.
 
Walmart can be both operationally efficient and also bad for the American people.

But we’re talking about someone who doesn’t recognize what a shithole the majority of the American south is, so what can you do?
 
DirkPiggler said:
You misunderstand my position. They aren't helping people out of altruism. I never said they were. But their presence gives low skill workers, many of whom don't have the aptitude or ambition to work in the trades, a place to work. Surely you don't think that the lady who is 50 pounds overweight is going to climb ladders to run conduit or crawl under houses to unclog drains. But she can work a register, stock shelves, etc. The presence of a Walmart store gives those people a place to work, and also keeps prices lower versus the local businesses they replace (whether that's good or bad for a community is an entirely different debate).

I can't speak for the entire country, but where I live and in the geographical footprint my business serves, there are plenty of affordable and accessible trade schools. Every plumbing, HVAC, or electrical company is short handed. Not everyone has the desire to maximize their earning potential.
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Yup... it ain't altruism. It's capitalism working. Forget about the jobs, it also makes everyday groceries affordable for poor people, and reduces the tax payer burden of higher welfare price tag. Walmart could absolutely raise their prices on goods, but they choose not to in order to squeeze their competition lower as well as their suppliers. They intentionally operate at a 4% margin - which is literally bare bones. This requires competitors like Target and Kroger to be in the same ball park price wise, or they lose business. Hell Amazon has done the same thing with Whole Foods, lowering their margins in order to make it more affordable.

It's a beautiful thing. and anyone who thinks Walmart represents a "dumb" company is a fool. They are brilliant while simultaneously getting decent jobs to complete idiots and affordable goods to the poorest people of the country
 
Super said:
Walmart can be both operationally efficient and also bad for the American people.

But we’re talking about someone who doesn’t recognize what a shithole the majority of the American south is, so what can you do?
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You don't understand economics. It's okay. You have a passing grasp of baseball.

Enscheff doesn't understand economics, either, and he clearly misunderstood the point Piggler and Sturg were making, but he at least brings some relatively novel analysis to the game of baseball (for a fan board).

Please explain how a massive corporation being as efficient as Walmart is "bad" for the American people.

Again, you seem to want 40% of your produce spoiled before it hits the market and 25% price hikes on every basic good you buy.

You know who else buys into this nonsense? India. Do you want the American economy to look like India's?

And you realize the average worker at Walmart would be one of the richest people in every state of India, right?

You're a fucking clown.
 
SJ24 said:
I don't think you're a very smart guy.

Walmart's operational efficiency is the best in the history of the world and they are responsible for supplying very cheap goods to a very large portion of the population. If you want 40% of your produce spoiled before it hits the market and 25% hikes on your basic goods, then yes, Walmart is bad.

Furthermore, Walmart employees aren't exactly what you'd consider a very competitive cohort. Who else would pay them better? If that company exists, why aren't they working there?

Read a book, pinko.
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If you don't have WalMart you'll go back to eating spoiled produce is certainly a take from someone apparently born in 2005.

Also, Tom Friedman and the 90s appreciate your business.
 
DirkPiggler said:
You misunderstand my position. They aren't helping people out of altruism. I never said they were. But their presence gives low skill workers, many of whom don't have the aptitude or ambition to work in the trades, a place to work. Surely you don't think that the lady who is 50 pounds overweight is going to climb ladders to run conduit or crawl under houses to unclog drains. But she can work a register, stock shelves, etc. The presence of a Walmart store gives those people a place to work, and also keeps prices lower versus the local businesses they replace (whether that's good or bad for a community is an entirely different debate).

I can't speak for the entire country, but where I live and in the geographical footprint my business serves, there are plenty of affordable and accessible trade schools. Every plumbing, HVAC, or electrical company is short handed. Not everyone has the desire to maximize their earning potential.
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Before Wal-Mart existed those people worked in small businesses, usually for better at, and the money wasn't sucked out of their community.

But hooray for late-stage capitalism, I guess.
 
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