Hey man - If you don't want to acknowledge that system that exists within the legislature I can't help you.
But yes powerless - Nothing great has happened under Trump term 2.
I remember when you said no deportations would happen.
Second ('Third') Trump Presidency Thread
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But yes powerless - Nothing great has happened under Trump term 2.
I remember when you said no deportations would happen.
sturg33
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No his motives on his 'come to Jesus moment' on Epstein.
Where was he the last ten years?
sturg33
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**Yes, Thomas Massie did call for the release of Epstein-related files (or transparency in the Epstein case) while Joe Biden was president.**
Biden's presidency ran from January 20, 2021, to January 20, 2025. Massie, a Republican Representative from Kentucky, has been vocal about Epstein issues for years, including during that period.
Key examples from reliable sources (including his own statements and congressional actions):
- In February 2024 (during Biden's term), Massie posted on X calling for Epstein-related transparency or releases.
- In March 2022 (also during Biden's term), he made similar public statements on X about the need for more information or release related to Epstein.
Massie's major push intensified later, particularly in 2025 (after Biden left office and during Trump's second term). He co-sponsored the Epstein Files Transparency Act with Rep. Ro Khanna (D-CA), filed discharge petitions to force votes on releasing Justice Department files, held briefings, and criticized delays or partial releases—even under the subsequent administration.
His advocacy spans multiple administrations, but documented calls and statements did occur while Biden was president, predating the 2025 bipartisan legislative efforts that led to partial file releases in late 2025 and into 2026.
In short: Massie was pushing for Epstein transparency before, during, and after Biden's presidency—not just afterward.
do you care to compare the volume and intensity of his “caring”?
sturg33
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Well with a Republican congress and DOJ its much more likely to get it done
Are you upset he did? Why?
You think the republican congress is what allowed him to push this through.
What was the vote like?
sturg33
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I dont understand why youre upset about.
If youre mad it makes Trump look bad bc Trump was involved with child rape than that disappoints me massively
No - You implied he needed to wait for a Republican congress.
Thats just flat out wrong.
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I really dont care what motivated the urgency.
Trump campaigned on releasing the files. Massie got it done. You should be applauding him. Yet, the cult leader says its bad and therefore you want a DEI chief to replace the guy who got it done
Its a bad look
Did Trump campaign on that?
sturg33
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Cmon dude
**Yes, Donald Trump did campaign on releasing the Epstein files (or related documents, including references to a "client list") during his 2024 presidential campaign.**
Multiple credible sources, including interviews, news reports, and summaries from that period, confirm he expressed willingness or made pledges to do so when asked. This was part of broader messaging around government transparency, declassifying files (e.g., alongside JFK or UFO documents), and criticizing "elites" hiding information.
Key documented instances from the 2024 campaign trail:
- In a June 2024 Fox News interview, when directly asked if he would declassify the Epstein files, Trump responded affirmatively ("Yeah, yeah, I would"). His campaign amplified this clip on social media, framing it as a promise to release Epstein files along with others like 9/11 and JFK.
- In a September 2024 interview on the Lex Fridman podcast, Trump said he would have "no problem" releasing additional Epstein files and indicated he would "probably" make a so-called client list public if elected.
- Other reports from outlets like the New York Post, Telegraph, and ABC News described him suggesting or promising to release more Epstein-related information, including the "client list," if he won.
This pledge aligned with his campaign's anti-establishment themes, appealing to supporters frustrated with perceived cover-ups. Post-election and into his second term (starting January 2025), the issue became contentious: partial releases occurred under congressional pressure (via the Epstein Files Transparency Act, which Trump signed after initial resistance), but full transparency faced delays, redactions, and criticism—even from some former supporters like Joe Rogan, who accused the administration of backtracking or "gaslighting."
In summary, while not a central plank like border security or the economy, Trump did publicly commit to releasing Epstein files/client list details during the 2024 campaign when prompted in interviews, and those statements were widely reported and shared by his team at the time.
So no rallying - He was asked questions and he repsonded.
Thats 'campaigning on the issue'? Cmon dude
Campaigning on an issue is like what he did with mass deportations. Thats a central campaign promise.
All of it should be released and it will be. It doesn't even implicate Trump and we are seeing the inclusion of tips from rando's as 'evidence'. You can see why after seeing hte body of hte evidence it gave some pause as its usefulness.