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Tapate50
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I bet Dems can pretzel themselves into it tho
This is where the Dems fall into traps. It’s fun to get shots off on our President being exceptionally dumb in many respects, but this interaction about Trump’s reasonably ineffective policy is now going to be about something nobody actually cares about. Anybody convinced Trump lowered prices by 600% is already an idiot, and explaining the math to them surely won’t help anything. So we’ve accomplished nothing.
acesfull86
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https://www.nationalreview.com/2026/04/hasan-piker-is-the-enemy/
Contrary to the mewling declaration of that eternal political weathervane, Ezra Klein, it seems clear to me that the most apposite way to describe the online left’s latest darling, the Twitch streamer Hasan Piker, is, indeed, as “the enemy.”
In a rambling group chat that was filmed and transcribed by the New York Timesthis week, Piker repeatedly made it clear that he is disdainful toward the fundamental rules that keep our society together. Inter alia, Piker defended the murder of the United Healthcare CEO, Brian Thompson, whom he deemed to have been guilty of “a tremendous amount of social murder”; suggested that he would happily “steal a car” if he “could get away with it”; and laid out a complex framework for when it is acceptable to shoplift (when the victim is “big corporations”) and when it is not (when the victim is “taxpayer-funded” with “union labor” and “adjusted prices”). Also “okay,” per Piker, is “I.P. theft, stealing movies, things like that.”
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It is not, in fact, acceptable to murder people because you think they are “social murderers.” It is not, in fact, acceptable to steal cars if you can “get away with it.” It is not, in fact, acceptable to shoplift if the store in question is owned by a “big corporation.” And no, blowing up pipelines is not, in fact, a “thing that should be legal that isn’t.”
John Locke contended that all individuals possess a natural right to “life, liberty, and property,” and, as a guiding principle, this has served us pretty well. It has not, of course, ended political debate or forced us into universal accord. But it has established the rule that one does not get to infringe upon those things simply because one has deemed oneself exempt. Hasan Piker seems to believe that his reference to Friedrich Engels’s “social murder” concept is extremely clever. In truth, it represents nothing more than solipsistic special pleading. If permitted to do so, everyone could play this game. Piker’s argument is that, by allocating resources as he did, Brian Thompson “killed” people. But one could offer precisely the same justification against politicians who run the government health-care systems that Piker covets, or against contractors whose budgets do not perfectly inoculate their apartment buildings against arson — or, if one were to fixate upon his refusal to donate his wealth to the world’s poor, against Piker himself. In this country, we do not leave it up to each person to determine to what extent each individual is murderable; we insist upon a blanket rule. To chip away at that dictum, even rhetorically, is to play with ancient fire.
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Wild that this even needs to be written in 2026, but here we are. Piker is a nut.
Contrary to the mewling declaration of that eternal political weathervane, Ezra Klein, it seems clear to me that the most apposite way to describe the online left’s latest darling, the Twitch streamer Hasan Piker, is, indeed, as “the enemy.”
In a rambling group chat that was filmed and transcribed by the New York Timesthis week, Piker repeatedly made it clear that he is disdainful toward the fundamental rules that keep our society together. Inter alia, Piker defended the murder of the United Healthcare CEO, Brian Thompson, whom he deemed to have been guilty of “a tremendous amount of social murder”; suggested that he would happily “steal a car” if he “could get away with it”; and laid out a complex framework for when it is acceptable to shoplift (when the victim is “big corporations”) and when it is not (when the victim is “taxpayer-funded” with “union labor” and “adjusted prices”). Also “okay,” per Piker, is “I.P. theft, stealing movies, things like that.”
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It is not, in fact, acceptable to murder people because you think they are “social murderers.” It is not, in fact, acceptable to steal cars if you can “get away with it.” It is not, in fact, acceptable to shoplift if the store in question is owned by a “big corporation.” And no, blowing up pipelines is not, in fact, a “thing that should be legal that isn’t.”
John Locke contended that all individuals possess a natural right to “life, liberty, and property,” and, as a guiding principle, this has served us pretty well. It has not, of course, ended political debate or forced us into universal accord. But it has established the rule that one does not get to infringe upon those things simply because one has deemed oneself exempt. Hasan Piker seems to believe that his reference to Friedrich Engels’s “social murder” concept is extremely clever. In truth, it represents nothing more than solipsistic special pleading. If permitted to do so, everyone could play this game. Piker’s argument is that, by allocating resources as he did, Brian Thompson “killed” people. But one could offer precisely the same justification against politicians who run the government health-care systems that Piker covets, or against contractors whose budgets do not perfectly inoculate their apartment buildings against arson — or, if one were to fixate upon his refusal to donate his wealth to the world’s poor, against Piker himself. In this country, we do not leave it up to each person to determine to what extent each individual is murderable; we insist upon a blanket rule. To chip away at that dictum, even rhetorically, is to play with ancient fire.
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Wild that this even needs to be written in 2026, but here we are. Piker is a nut.
sturg33
I
The left is in a corner. All of the energy in youth is with Piker. There is no alternative moving forward. This will be the mainstream of their party
Academia has accomplished its goal
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
Who is Piker? I mean I feel like I hear him being talked about by the right way more than the left.
Quick googling would be like equating him being the voice of the left ot equating Asmongold being the voice of the right. Like these guys have a hold but I mean they're not even that huge. According to streaming stats his average twitch viewership is 28K. Which is massive for twitch, but compare that to Logan Paul's 23M subscribers on youtube with 6 billion views of his videos. or Mr. Beast who has 500 million subscribers and and 100+ billion views of his youtube. Like in the big picture this guy is really popular, but hardly a policy maker.
Tapate50
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Pretty standard stuff here
Must be hard keeping straight which dem NGO is funding the kkk and which funds Hamas
