Race

I generally agree that young people should be given a certain amount of space to solve problems between themselves without adult intervention. I don't think the experiences that David French describes fall in this category.
 
nsacpi said:
I think the first step is not to dismiss with a "sure sure" + Jessie Smollet. We've made great progress on race in this country but we should be honest in our assessment of where we are.
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Jussie Smollet doesn't happen if our country doesn't incentivize victimhood

I would say race relations have gotten much worse in this country since and obama and left decided to make it the forefront of all issues
 
acesfull86 said:
Still depressingly obsessed with it and it's supposed essentialism, unfortunately
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I don't think David French is obsessed with racism. He is just making an observation. He writes about a wide range of topics.

I think we've made a lot of progress on it. My first year in this country I remember my fifth grade teacher pulling aside the three black kids in my class and explaining to them they would have to go to a different school the next year.
 
nsacpi said:
I don't think David French is obsessed with racism. He is just making an observation. He writes about a wide range of topics.

I think we've made a lot of progress on it. My first year in this country I remember my fifth grade teacher pulling aside the three black kids in my class and explaining to them they would have to go to a different school the next year.
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Why do you think black people are worse off today than they were 50 years ago economically?
 
sturg33 said:
Remember when Jussie Smollet was mugged by a bunch of racists? And Bubba Wallace was theeatened with a grlarage rope? And Nicholas Sandman smiled at an indian?

The phd is so adorable
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I remember a rich guy taking out a full page ad falsely condemning , trying and sentencing the Central Park 5.

You later voted ( yes, voted )
for said rich guy 3 times to carry the nuclear suitcase.

You conveniently forget all Civil Rights movemem arguments center around whether or not white people were entitled to enslave black people.
You apparently hold that belief .
Tell us all why not

Why shouldn't Bubba Wallace's crew be sensitive to a noose in the garage.
I really doubt this was the first time a racial slight was aimed at Wallace. Think it, gamesmanship?
Read the room
The other incident you repeat years later are, well, a native American being harassed by a legacy bigot.

Please don't let it be lost All of these incidents center around the supposed right of whites owning POC slaves.
 
sturg33 said:
Why do you think black people are worse off today than they were 50 years ago economically?
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I've shared some thoughts. I think the counterfactual of successful black children of immigrants provides some hints. They avoid moving to highly segregated areas (ghettos). They value education very highly. They have intact family structures.

If there is a solution, I think it will have to involve reducing patterns of segregation where large numbers of black children grow up in blighted areas with all sorts of pathologies, including a lack of fathers and other male role models. Those pathologies are self-perpetuating legacies of past racism.
 
57Brave said:
I remember a rich guy taking out a full page ad falsely condemning , trying and sentencing the Central Park 5.

You later voted ( yes, voted )
for said rich guy 3 times to carry the nuclear suitcase.

You conveniently forget all Civil Rights movemem arguments center around whether or not white people were entitled to enslave black people.
You apparently hold that belief .
Tell us all why not

Why shouldn't Bubba Wallace's crew be sensitive to a noose in the garage.
I really doubt this was the first time a racial slight was aimed at Wallace. Think it, gamesmanship?
Read the room
The other incident you repeat years later are, well, a native American being harassed by a legacy bigot.

Please don't let it be lost All of these incidents center around the supposed right of whites owning POC slaves.
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Lol

Fir the love of all that is holy, repeal this guy's right to vote
 
nsacpi said:
I've shared some thoughts. I think the counterfactual of successful black children of immigrants provides some hints. They avoid moving to highly segregated areas (ghettos). They value education very highly. They have intact family structures.

If there is a solution, I think it will have to involve reducing patterns of segregation where large numbers of black children grow up in blighted areas with all sorts of pathologies, including a lack of fathers and other male role models. Those pathologies are self-perpetuating legacies of past racism.
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So black americans are uniquely positioned to fail? Despite all the preferential treatment they receive from every system in the country?
 
sturg33 said:
So black americans are uniquely positioned to fail? Despite all the preferential treatment they receive from every system in the country?
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They are not unique. Whites in Appalachia and some other rural areas show their own brands of multi-generational poverty and dysfunction.

I think blacks still suffer from a certain amount of discrimination and stereotyping. David French's interview highlighted this.

Blacks also suffer from self-perpetuating legacies of past discrimination.
 
" all the preferential treatment they receive "

Not to make too big a deal of the use of the world, " they"!

Another form of preferential treatment might be Bubba Wallace's garage got a noose and not say for example, Kevin Harvick's.
So yes, " preferential treatment" is at the heart of the issue.l

As far as Charlottesville, if not mistaken the minority targeted was Jewish.
You can look it up
 
nsacpi said:
They are not unique. Whites in Appalachia and some other rural areas show their own brands of multi-generational poverty and dysfunction.

I think blacks still suffer from a certain amount of discrimination and stereotyping. David French's interview highlighted this.

Blacks also suffer from self-perpetuating legacies of past discrimination.
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But outcomes have gotten worse despite all the progress and preferential treatment granted
 
57Brave said:
" all the preferential treatment they receive "

Not to make too big a deal of the use of the world, " they"!

Another form of preferential treatment might be Bubba Wallace's garage got a noose and not say for example, Kevin Harvick's.
So yes, " preferential treatment" is at the heart of the issue.l

As far as Charlottesville, if not mistaken the minority targeted was Jewish.
You can look it up
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57... guy

It wasnt a noose.

It was a rope.

Charlottesville was funded by the SPLC.

You need to learn a few things. Your ignorance is staggering
 
sturg33 said:
But outcomes have gotten worse despite all the progress and preferential treatment granted
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Some outcomes have gotten worse. Generally there is less upward mobility than there used to be. And some of that reflects increasing residential segregation. Groups that avoid these patterns of segregation (notably immigrants and their children) have continued to show upward mobility.
 
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