GDT 5-5: Braves-Mariners; Left Fielder Michael Harris II

I put Kinley on the list because he's responsible for two losses. Also, I'm fully expecting Kinley to regress. Unsustainable BABIP, xfip over 4, and his stuff isn't impressive.

Most of all, Kinley has been a marginal major leaguer almost his entire career. I don't believe he's suddenly figured out how to pitch at 35.

He's a step above the other guys I mentioned but I wouldn't let him stand in the way of filling his spot with a more reliable reliever.
 
UNCBlue012 said:
I don't think some people understand how fucking good Tyler Kinley has been with Atlanta. He's not elite, but he's B+ to even A-tier, for sure.

Regardless, Iggy, Suarez, Lee, Kinley are elite high-leverage depth. Add in Dodd, Fuentes (if he stays BP) and Lopez or Holmes, and that's easily elite. If they add a dominant lefty at the Deadline, I feel GREAT.

Statcast: https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/tyler-kinley-641755?stats=statcast-r-pitching-mlb
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I feel even better if Weiss actually shortens the game by using his relievers in high leverage throughout the game rather than just 7-8-9 in the playoffs should the situation occur.
 
striker42 said:
I put Kinley on the list because he's responsible for two losses. Also, I'm fully expecting Kinley to regress. Unsustainable BABIP, xfip over 4, and his stuff isn't impressive.

Most of all, Kinley has been a marginal major leaguer almost his entire career. I don't believe he's suddenly figured out how to pitch at 35.

He's a step above the other guys I mentioned but I wouldn't let him stand in the way of filling his spot with a more reliable reliever.
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Lol. You don’t know ball.

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striker42 said:
I put Kinley on the list because he's responsible for two losses. Also, I'm fully expecting Kinley to regress. Unsustainable BABIP, xfip over 4, and his stuff isn't impressive.

Most of all, Kinley has been a marginal major leaguer almost his entire career. I don't believe he's suddenly figured out how to pitch at 35.

He's a step above the other guys I mentioned but I wouldn't let him stand in the way of filling his spot with a more reliable reliever.
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I think it’s more likely that Kinley could get pushed down one spot in the pen pecking order.

He has been quite good for the Braves overall. It would take a major implosion over a month or more for them to consider moving on from him.
 
striker42 said:
I put Kinley on the list because he's responsible for two losses. Also, I'm fully expecting Kinley to regress. Unsustainable BABIP, xfip over 4, and his stuff isn't impressive.

Most of all, Kinley has been a marginal major leaguer almost his entire career. I don't believe he's suddenly figured out how to pitch at 35.

He's a step above the other guys I mentioned but I wouldn't let him stand in the way of filling his spot with a more reliable reliever.
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Dude… his statcast page is really good… and no he didn’t suddenly figure it out at 35, he just got out of Colorado
 
CyYoung31 said:
Lol. You don’t know ball.

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I'm fully aware of his statcast page and how most of the red is guys not squaring him up well. Also, that's based on 16 innings early in the year.

I think you'll see a regression. He's an extreme flyball pitcher who walks a lot of guys. That's a bad combo for a reliever. His stuff doesn't support him continuing to be so difficult to hit hard. I fully expect the league to adjust to whatever adjustments he's made and him to regress to the mean (probably an ERA around 4).

I hope I'm wrong, I just have trouble putting much faith in him. But by all means ride him hard until the league catches back up.
 
striker42 said:
I'm fully aware of his statcast page and how most of the red is guys not squaring him up well. Also, that's based on 16 innings early in the year.

I think you'll see a regression. He's an extreme flyball pitcher who walks a lot of guys. That's a bad combo for a reliever. His stuff doesn't support him continuing to be so difficult to hit hard. I fully expect the league to adjust to whatever adjustments he's made and him to regress to the mean (probably an ERA around 4).

I hope I'm wrong, I just have trouble putting much faith in him. But by all means ride him hard until the league catches back up.
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You’re describing a middle relief pitcher. Would it be nice if we had three more Lee, Suarez, and Iggy’s then I agree.. bye Kinley but thats an insane expectation
 
Slippyjms said:
You’re missing the proper context. Bummer has over 5 years or service and is making 6.5 million dollars. He’d have no reason to accept the assignment. We’d be on the hook for the money no matter what. We DFA’d some long relievers who weren’t available that were making league minimum and a RHP in Payamps that would’ve have to have given up his salary if he elected FA. Now that Suarez is gone we only have 3 LHRP. We’re not cutting one for no reason.
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I can promise you, we aren't keeping a guy on the roster who is pitching as poorly as Bummer, regardless what he is getting paid.

And he absolutely has reason to accept the assignment to Gwinnett or elect FA and re-sign on a minor league deal, if no one else is willing to sign him to their active roster. It's literally the same thing we did with Perez 2 weeks ago, and Perez was actually a useful pitcher.
 
Murphy behind the dish today and batting ninth .. Drake leading off…. Probably doesn’t happen too often where both catchers will be batting back to back…
 
Sounds like Holmes is moving to the pen, which is the right decision. But yeesh.

So they’re rolling with a rotation of:
Sale
Strider
Elder
Ritchie
Perez
 
chop2chip said:
You’re describing a middle relief pitcher. Would it be nice if we had three more Lee, Suarez, and Iggy’s then I agree.. bye Kinley but thats an insane expectation
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Fair enough. I do sometimes underestimate just how low the bar is for relievers. The fact that Payamps got guaranteed money is insane to me.
 
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