David Price

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I don't have access to ESPN Insider, but I noticed a little something from Jim Bowden's Twitter. He had a piece about David Price. Again, I don't have access to the entire article, but I did see this:

The most interesting aspect of a potential deal is that there aren't as many contending teams looking for a top-of-the-rotation starter as in the past. For example, in the National League, teams such as the Cardinals, Brewers, Reds, Giants, Dodgers and Nationals all have enough pitching at the top that they have no reason to empty their farm system to acquire Price. In fact, I would argue the Braves (who, by the way, have the best starting pitcher ERA in the league) are the only NL team likely to inquire about Price.

So, should the Braves inquire about David Price?
 
I am torn, while I see the need for someone other than Teheran to fill the top of the rotation I am afraid of what we would have to give up. IF we could trade Santana and Harang then I would be all for it, within reason. We also need to have Alex Wood back in the rotation, I would be real happy to see a rotation of Price Teheran Wood Floyd and Minor. Then use the other 2 pitchers in trade to bolster the pen and we would be set for a run. Would Tampa be interested in having BJ Upton back lol
 
It would probably destroy our farm system for a few years though. Only way I'd make a trade for Price is if we can lock him up.
 
Only if Wren can drug the entire Rays front office for about a week and convince them that their struggles are due to the absence of BJ Upton and do a straight up deal BJ for Price. And if the drugs work well enough I'd also do a Johnson for Longoria swap and have them throw Grant Balfour in on the deal as well.
 
I don't have access to ESPN Insider, but I noticed a little something from Jim Bowden's Twitter. He had a piece about David Price. Again, I don't have access to the entire article, but I did see this:

The most interesting aspect of a potential deal is that there aren't as many contending teams looking for a top-of-the-rotation starter as in the past. For example, in the National League, teams such as the Cardinals, Brewers, Reds, Giants, Dodgers and Nationals all have enough pitching at the top that they have no reason to empty their farm system to acquire Price. In fact, I would argue the Braves (who, by the way, have the best starting pitcher ERA in the league) are the only NL team likely to inquire about Price.

So, should the Braves inquire about David Price?

But is our ERA still the best after that beauty today?
 
The guy on the Rays I'd like to get is Zobrist, more so even than Price. Our rotation will be OK if Wood performs well and Santana gets his act together. Both of these things are reasonably possible.

Zobrist would give us someone to play instead of CJ or BJ. Man, could we use that. Neither of those guys are going to get any better than they have been, IMO.

They want prospects, not rentals, however so we would have to pony up.
 
Bowden's suggestion:

The trade: Alex Wood, Lucas Sims and a pitching prospect for Price.

I wouldn't do that, but it's a fair deal.
 
I think we should go for it. As long as we don't give up Wood, Teheran, or any of our good young position players. I mean it could deplete our system but I think we have so many good young players in the majors already that we don't need a deep system right now. We are set at 6 of the 8 positions for the next 3 years at least(although that includes BJ and CJ). Maybe Bethancourt and Sims and another low level prospect.
It would give us a legit Ace and a solid rotation for the rest of the year of Price, Teheran, Minor, Santana, and Wood or Floyd.
 
Bowden's suggestion:

The trade: Alex Wood, Lucas Sims and a pitching prospect for Price.

I wouldn't do that, but it's a fair deal.

Fair my left nut...

Only thing making that deal fair is if Price is willing to extend...No rentals...We should have learned our lesson on the Tex & Wainright deals.
 
Price isn't going to score runs for us.

Price isn't going to improve our bunting or lack of clutch hitting.

While I agree with you that we really need more on offense how would you suggest we do it. We have so many players underachieving at the plate right now that you would except them to break out at sometime. Who do we replace on offense to get better? We couldn't get rid of BJ and maybe we could trade Johnson but who would we get that would be a big enough improvement to help us out?
 
I would love to add David Price to this rotation. However the likely cost he would net Tampa probably exceeds what we should give up for him. Besides our offensive is the most worrisome aspect of the team and adding a stud pitcher doesn't fix that.
 
The guy on the Rays I'd like to get is Zobrist, more so even than Price. Our rotation will be OK if Wood performs well and Santana gets his act together. Both of these things are reasonably possible.

Zobrist would give us someone to play instead of CJ or BJ. Man, could we use that. Neither of those guys are going to get any better than they have been, IMO.

They want prospects, not rentals, however so we would have to pony up.

I feel like Zobrist is just going to end up being another Uggla once he gets to a certain age (and younger than you'd expect it to be)
 
Bowden's suggestion:

The trade: Alex Wood, Lucas Sims and a pitching prospect for Price.

I wouldn't do that, but it's a fair deal.

I still think you make a deal for Price if you can WITHOUT including Wood.

Sims, Bethancourt, and Peraza? I'm in. Sims, Peraza/Bethancourt, and a better "throw-in" pitching prospect than Bowden's probably thinking? I'm in.

In his scenario, Bowden's proposal is likely Wood, Sims, and probably Northcraft as the third player. If Friedman will take Sims and Mauricio Cabrera with whichever one of Peraza or Bethancourt he prefers, I'd make the deal. If it takes both Peraza and Bethancourt to make it work for Friedman I'd even consider it. You improve the team wherever you can - we're not going to be able to upgrade CF or 3B given what's going to be available on the market this year. The future downgrade from Peraza to La Stella and Bethancourt to a veteran defense-first backup Catcher is worth it.

As long as you get to keep Wood, you're dealing from a position of strength while upgrading whatever area you can. Assuming you don't believe La Stella's going to turn into a pumpkin, make the rotation as bulletproof as possible and make a run. A playoff rotation of Price, Teheran, Minor, and Floyd or Wood stacks up against any rotation in the game.

Trade Santana to the Yankees to get them to eat more of Uggla's money - would give you more to play with in an attempt to extend Price. Santana and half of what we owe Uggla for Betances or J. R. Murphy and Aaron Judge would be one idea.

There's just no way I think you can include Wood without a favorable extension signed - say 5/$100 million. As long as you keep Wood, the extension isn't completely necessary - even if you keep Price until the end of his current deal and let him go when he turns down the QO, you're going to be able to get a Sims-level replacement with the draft pick you get when he signs elsewhere. For those that think Sims is so untouchable, please take your Bill Shanks Braves' Colored Glasses off when you look at his stats and watch him pitch - he's struggling far more against High-A competition than Teheran, Minor, or Wood EVER did in their time in the minors (at any level). If you project him as anything better than a potential #3 when he reaches this level you must be Bill.

Scream about the Teixeira trade until you're blue in the face - the pieces we gave up to get him wouldn't have been impactful as Braves. Salty was blocked (and still would be). Andrus was blocked (and I'd personally rather have Simba today). Harrison was no better than either Minor or Wood, and is now likely done (with Uggla-type dollars owed him). Feliz flamed out as a starter (and would have blocked Kimbrel - which would you rather have in the 9th inning???). Beau Jones was just another Gilmartin/Northcraft/insert AAAA pitcher name here.
 
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