Boko Harem
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zitothebrave
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ANd it would have cost them much more to be armed by those arms dealers to get older weapons that probably don't work too well.
They have more money then they know what to do with and its all consolidated.
zitothebrave
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If they had more money than they know what to do with, they'd be world powers, not second fiddles. You're mistaking the money bein made in those regions with money being made by those nations. Sure there are rich, but the rich nations there are just shells where most of the nation is poor, and the radicals are typically the poor.
The leaders of the radicals are not poor and that is how they get their weapons.
The leaders aren't poor that's how they finance Thier groups.
yeezus
It's OVER 5,000!
I don't even understand what you guys are arguing about. The US certainly helped these groups in the past and made things easier on them. Gave them weapons they didn't have the technology or money for. That's not even moderately debatable. They'd obviously be fighting with or without our aid, but we definitely gave them things they wouldn't have been able to get otherwise.
BedellBrave
It's OVER 5,000!
Its the United States fault. These groups would still be sitting in their caves with billions of dollars not bothering anyone. Damn the US!
zitothebrave
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Lulz, that just shows your total lack of knowledge of global corporate policy is just sad. Yeah they're bad people, but they're being propped up by bad people with a lot of money who're being propped up by bad people with even more money. You think the Saudis lets say would give money to a terror group if Big Oil told them they'd find another way to get oil? You need a solid grasp on history to realize the reason the Saudis haven't been touched is cause they play ball with the west and big corps. So don't you think if the US really cared about terrorism they would be shutting down the Saudi rich? Or is it all just a front to keep the military industrial complex alive and kicking? I'll let you use your brain, you have one would like to see you really do some research.
Yeah, you are right. All of this senseless killing is because of us. Lets completely ignore that this region has been bat**** crazy for many centuries. This is all a recent phenomenon.
That's impossible thethe. Are you saying that Muslims have been bat **** crazy before we found a use for Oil? Zito you may need a tighter grasp of history. Terrorism by Muslims isn't because of big oil or rich corporations. It's because of their beliefs.
Muslims can't even get along with eachother because they don't believe EXACTLY what the other groups believe. If you think that oil is the reason that the radical Muslims hate the West then you are clueless.
Thethe, it's how the liberals place blame. Notice how it's someone else's fault that some Muslims are extreme, it's society's fault for the drug and gang filled ghettos in America and it's the guns fault whenever a gun related tragedy happens
If we blame and hold the person responsible instead of blaming everyone else, the world would be a better place. But we can't dare blame the terrorists,drug dealers and sociopaths that kill people. Life was unfair to them.
If we blame and hold the person responsible instead of blaming everyone else, the world would be a better place. But we can't dare blame the terrorists,drug dealers and sociopaths that kill people. Life was unfair to them.
zitothebrave
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There's a number of reasons. But maybe again you should research history.
We've used for nearly a century now the Holy War tactic to rally Muslims to fight themselves (T.E. Lawrence) the Nazis, or the Soviets. Even if all you think that's not happening today you have to at least acknowledge that the western tactics are actively being mimicked by someone.
zitothebrave
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Oh look more racism, and fox news talking points. Shock of all shocks.
So you are saying that the centuries old disputes between Sunni and Shia Muslims aren't the main factor they fight each other. What exactly are you trying to say? They would be fighting eachother regardless of what we would do.
lol.
The US has been instigating stuff in the middle east for well over half a century. We've been injecting steroids into what already was, and we are supposed to be surprised that a lot of the people there have backlash against us.
Same goes for drone killings. When we drone and kill 20 innocents to kill 1 person, do we expect the families and extended families of the 20 innocents to "understand" and accept their deaths in the name of 'Murica's Revenge for 9/11 14 years later?
LAWLZ
I have so many people liberal and conservative, ESPECIALLY CONSERVATIVES, tell me they're completely fine with drones killing innocents because "it's their people, not ours"... or it's "collateral damage of war". That's the sad part, is many still think 14 years later there's a real war out there, not government disguised scare tactics to make people still think they attack us because of our freedoms.
The US has been instigating stuff in the middle east for well over half a century. We've been injecting steroids into what already was, and we are supposed to be surprised that a lot of the people there have backlash against us.
Same goes for drone killings. When we drone and kill 20 innocents to kill 1 person, do we expect the families and extended families of the 20 innocents to "understand" and accept their deaths in the name of 'Murica's Revenge for 9/11 14 years later?
LAWLZ
I have so many people liberal and conservative, ESPECIALLY CONSERVATIVES, tell me they're completely fine with drones killing innocents because "it's their people, not ours"... or it's "collateral damage of war". That's the sad part, is many still think 14 years later there's a real war out there, not government disguised scare tactics to make people still think they attack us because of our freedoms.
zitothebrave
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No, there millennia old issues of nomadic tribal warfare plays a bigger part. That's where the rift in Islam started in a same idea as the rifts in Catholicism, Judaism, so on so forth. Old bonds are the hardest to break.
Nobody has ever (at least I haven't) said that the US is an innocent party to this fight.