Fielding percentage? Yeah, Larry Bowa had a better career fielding percentage than Ozzie Smith so he must have been a better shortstop than him. In all seriousness, fielding percentage is a terrible indicator of a fielder's ability. Range, which can be measured by sabermetrics, is the most important.
GDT - 7/9/2014 - Braves at Mets
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UNCBlue012
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By the way guys, I saw a midnight showing of Dawn of the Planet of the Apes and it was fantastic. It was up there with Grand Budapest and Her for the best movie of the year for me.
stpeteirish
Called Up to the Major Leagues
Unfortunately he's not the only problem with our offense.There's SS and CF and C when Gattis can't play. Even so its perplexing to me that the sum of our parts offensively seems to exceed what we're getting on the whole. Lack of "clutch", poor lineup construction, not enough guys in sync, or whatever. But this lineup shouldn't be 3rd to last in runs scored.
sturg33
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I don't think we can use his career numbers, because his career number indicate a semi-power hitter. We've seen the last two years, that for whatever reason, he lost his power
50PoundHead
Hessmania Forever
I know OPS is shorthand, but it can be very helpful shorthand, especially when you deconstruct it a bit. If a guy hit all singles and didn't walk, his OPS would be double his batting average (subtract sacrifice flies as well). If you double Johnson's current batting average, you get .546. His actual OPS is .648. In other words, the sum of his "iso's" is .102. Paltry. Absolutely paltry.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
Had an ISO of .136 last year. This year he is at .078. Going forward is likely to be somewhere in between.
NinersSBChamps
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I know it's not the end all be all, but fielding percentage directly tells you how good a guy is at fielding his position. I know it's not some cool stats nerds use, but you can't just dismiss something like it completely.
I hate it because gives people a false sense of how good/bad a fielder is. A case in point was how you were defending CJ's defense because he has fewer errors than most other 3rd baseman. Yes, he commits fewer errors but he has the range of a 1st baseman playing 3rd base. If we had someone at 3rd with better than average range and had double the errors that CJ's committed(that would be eight I believe) we'd still be way better off.
NinersSBChamps
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I stated that he was an average third basemen defensively. I don't think that is too far-fetched. He makes 97% of the plays within his range. Albeit he has limited range. There are far worse defensive third basemen in the league.
http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.as...4&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0 Yes, he's makes plays within his range well but if his range sucks that doesn't say much. Look at the amount of plays he's gotten to compared to the other 3rd basemen. Look at the Out of Zone plays he gets to. Sure, he's not the worst defender at 3rd base but he's way below average.
jsebe10
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Are you only looking at errors? Read my entire post. I stated he may not have the best range and be a better 3B of the group. I know where you are going with this
jsebe10
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The hilarious thing is....if he had a terrible batting avg and committed a lot of errors, you would use them to prove a point. Knee slapper huh?
CyYoung31
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Two reasons: Arizona and Houston.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
Well last year he didn't play in either of those two locations. I'm still comfortable with the view that his underlying level is somewhere between his 2013 and 2014 numbers.
CyYoung31
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Nope.