REAL FOOTBALL Thread

gilesfan said:
according to footballoutsiders, the Niners had the 13th best defense and the 8th best offense last year. Not a big stretch to think they may not make the playoffs next year.
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I wouldn't bet against them. But you never know. Rams were a very good squad last year, they added 2 beasts in the draft with Robinson and Donald, If Bradford improves a little they'll be in contention with the Niners.
 
gilesfan said:
according to footballoutsiders, the Niners had the 13th best defense and the 8th best offense last year. Not a big stretch to think they may not make the playoffs next year.
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How many teams do you think were top 15 in both categories last year?
 
zitothebrave said:
I wouldn't bet against them. But you never know. Rams were a very good squad last year, they added 2 beasts in the draft with Robinson and Donald, If Bradford improves a little they'll be in contention with the Niners.
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49ers were clearly the second best team in the league last year and got more explosive on offense. Losing Bowman sucks but MLB is actually a position where hte 49ers have strong depth.
 
thethe said:
49ers were clearly the second best team in the league last year and got more explosive on offense. Losing Bowman sucks but MLB is actually a position where hte 49ers have strong depth.
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Regardless of the Superbowl result the Broncos were the second best team in the NFL last year. Niners weren't better than the Saints or Panthers in the NFC. Not to say they will or won't be next year of course we can only deal with what happened, not guess what will happen.
 
zitothebrave said:
Regardless of the Superbowl result the Broncos were the second best team in the NFL last year. Niners weren't better than the Saints or Panthers in the NFC. Not to say they will or won't be next year of course we can only deal with what happened, not guess what will happen.
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Please, the Broncos were a paper tiger. They didn't deserve to be on the same field as the Seahawks while there were a couple teams in the NFC that did. 49ers beat the Panthers in the playoffs on the road and after the first 12-15 minutes the game wasn't even a contest. The 49ers abused them.

49ers also basically beat the Saints in New Orleans if not for an awful penalty.
 
thethe said:
49ers also basically beat the Saints in New Orleans if not for an awful penalty.
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lol. SF is the best.......if not for penalties.

Broncos have a bad game and all of a sudden don't deserve to be on the field.
 
gilesfan said:
Yes. If SF was so good, why didn't they win? They shouldn't need 1 play to cry about.
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When you are on the road in one of the toughest stadiums to play in then 1 play that decides the game late is worth complaining about. If that game is at home then you have a beef.
 
zitothebrave said:
Regardless of the Superbowl result the Broncos were the second best team in the NFL last year. Niners weren't better than the Saints or Panthers in the NFC. Not to say they will or won't be next year of course we can only deal with what happened, not guess what will happen.
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The Niners beat the Panthers in the playoffs. Not sure how you can consider them better. Wins and losses must mean nothing to you.

Besides the teams you all named that didn't make the playoffs after Superbowls or whatever either have extremely inconsistent QB's (Manning) or key players (Kurt Warner) left.

The Niners have the same coaching staff and basically the same team other than a couple upgrades at RB and WR and a couple downgrades at CB and LB until Bowman gets back. This team is built to win for a long time as long as Harbaugh stays around. They are so stacked that they draft injured would be low round draft picks in the later rounds and stash them for the next year. Barring an injury to Kap, they win 10 games minimum.

Team has 13, 11 and 12 wins the last 3 years. I don't give a rats ass where their offensive or defensive rankings are. They win and they win a lot.
 
thethe said:
When you are on the road in one of the toughest stadiums to play in then 1 play that decides the game late is worth complaining about. If that game is at home then you have a beef.
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Kap had Boldin or VD wide open over the middle, bad read, although i think he had pressure in his face and had to force it.
 
thethe said:
Please, the Broncos were a paper tiger. They didn't deserve to be on the same field as the Seahawks while there were a couple teams in the NFC that did. 49ers beat the Panthers in the playoffs on the road and after the first 12-15 minutes the game wasn't even a contest. The 49ers abused them.

49ers also basically beat the Saints in New Orleans if not for an awful penalty.
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Because they had 7-8 starters on IR, the team they had on the field didnt deserve to be on the field but when healthy, it would abeen a different game.

Seattle probably still wins most likely.

Probably still lose but when your defense is made up of duct-tape, there aint much you can do, and the best OL ont he team was out since Week 2 didnt help things either.
 
ESP47 said:
The Niners beat the Panthers in the playoffs. Not sure how you can consider them better. Wins and losses must mean nothing to you.

Besides the teams you all named that didn't make the playoffs after Superbowls or whatever either have extremely inconsistent QB's (Manning) or key players (Kurt Warner) left.

The Niners have the same coaching staff and basically the same team other than a couple upgrades at RB and WR and a couple downgrades at CB and LB until Bowman gets back. This team is built to win for a long time as long as Harbaugh stays around. They are so stacked that they draft injured would be low round draft picks in the later rounds and stash them for the next year. Barring an injury to Kap, they win 10 games minimum.

Team has 13, 11 and 12 wins the last 3 years. I don't give a rats ass where their offensive or defensive rankings are. They win and they win a lot.
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So because they beat them head to head means they're a better team? And Carolina beat SF in SF in the regular season. Wins and losses matter, but head to head record really doesn't. Falcons beat the Rams, doesn't mean the Falcons are better than the Rams.

And you think Kaepernick is a consistent QB? And what would you call the Falcons missing? Ryan has been about the most consistent QB outside of the great or terrible QBs.

What upgrades do they have at RB? Assuming Latimer is healthy? Niners lost a lot in the secondary and lost their starting C. Niners don't get me wrong should be a contender. But you don't know what will happen over a season. What if Crabs and Davis go down? what if they lose more LBs? Or DEs? Football of course also has teams who lose games when they shouldn't. The Bears have been one of the better teams in the NFL last 2 years and has no playoffs to show.
 
The NFC besides the East is going to be great this year. The West and South are stacked, and I like Chicago, Green Bay, and the Lions have talent.
The Niners will be a good team, I think that's obvious. Serious injuries would have to occur for them not to be.
The Falcons will be good if healthy.
 
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