The Incoherence of Millenials

You sound like a crotchety old man Bedell. For those of you who don't want to put yourselves through the pain of reading it, here are the cliffs.

Millennials don't make much money.
Millennials are liberal.
Millennials sway conservative when they start making money.
Millennials aren't as smart as older people.

None of these are specific traits of Millennials. They are traits of pretty much every younger person and this has been going on since forever.
 
“Our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for their elders and love chatter in place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room; they contradict their parents, chatter before company; gobble up their food and tyrannize their teachers.”

- Socrates (attributed by Plato), who lived from 468-399 BC.

Some things will never change I guess
 
This article speaks so broadly.

Can't speak for why they speak highly of Congress, because that would mean they're endorsing Boehner's policies. Single parenthood thing I have no comment on. The Obamacare/Universal Healthcare "paradox" really isn't a paradox at all. While they disapprove of the mandate-style healthcare, they still do want single payer in the long run. Obamacare is just a bridge to single payer. And the verdict isn't out on Obamacare yet, we've just spent the last 4 years navigating through Republican smokescreens with death panels and all of the other talking points that attract the lowest IQ voters.

As for getting more economically conservative when they make more money, that isn't a suprise at all. The graph shown in the article is pretty stupid because I don't consider 100k "rich". When accounted for inflation and what not, a million isn't a million when I was 5 or even 10 years old. Why do anti-Millenials think millenials don't believe in getting rewarded for work and labor?

On spending, millenials want to spend on infrastructure and programs conducive to real job growth. What we disapprove of is the military industrial complex and bloated defense spending, which the atlantic article makes absolutely ZERO mention of. How convenient, considering that's a huge political ideological difference between millenials and boomers.

Lastly, on the term socialism versus capitalism, it's really going to vary on person to person what their definition is. When the Republican Party has spent the last 7 years trying to tell the electorate that socialism = Soviet Communism, some people would be weary of hearing the term socialism.

I don't know any real millenials that went to college and work, that want to see us turn into China or Soviet Russia economically.

Ultimately, I myself am a capitalist person on most things, but I have no idea why you think it's not possible for me to believe in something like universal healthcare which shouldn't exactly be isolated to capitalism.
 
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BTW I finger the sweeping generalizations of this article as being a problem with our political discourse. I'll start with the last point. Probably the big reason millennials (or the rest of America) don't understand Socialism is because we're told all of the time that something that's not socialist (say Obamacare) is Socialist. That being said a 10% swing is probably just your average adjustment for idiots taking a poll.

Everything else involved is pretty much true of any generation. You think George Bush and Wavy Gravy had the same political beliefs growing up? Hell in my own family where we have 2 generations. Everyone else is a Gen X with my sister being very borderline and I'm a millennial. But i have 2 solid democrat sisters (well one who's borderline Green but probably votes D come election) one brother who I'm sure votes D but is borderline communist. My other brother and I are probably the 2 most similar. We're both liberal libertarians. What you'd probably classify as close to Green party but less extreme on the Government should pay for everything stuff.
 
But first let me tell you a little story. I once worked in one of the Georgia Power plants that powers much of Atlanta. It was a great place to work, but as a young guy - a young engineer, you had to just get use to something. And that something was a bit of good-natured ribbing, pranks and low-scale hazing. A piece of sage advice was one day given to me by an old engineer as we were discussing how another young guy just keep on getting "abused" by the rough and rowdy rednecks working in the plant. The old guy said, "you know, that young man needs to learn that it is no fun kicking a dead fish."

And with that, have a nice day.
 
BedellBrave said:
But first let me tell you a little story. I once worked in one of the Georgia Power plants that powers much of Atlanta. It was a great place to work, but as a young guy - a young engineer, you had to just get use to something. And that something was a bit of good-natured ribbing, pranks and low-scale hazing. A piece of sage advice was one day given to me by an old engineer as we were discussing how another young guy just keep on getting "abused" by the rough and rowdy rednecks working in the plant. The old guy said, "you know, that young man needs to learn that it is no fun kicking a dead fish."

And with that, have a nice day.
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This article has three points, points which could be applied to basically any demographic:

1. __________s are more conservative about income tax when they have more money.
2. __________s don't understand economics.
3. __________s don't really know what socialism is.

I would imagine there are any number of words you could insert in there and be equally accurate, like "hog farmers," "baby boomers," or "people." Though point three uses this chart as evidence:

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Wow, a whopping 10-12% changed their opinion. I guess they're all f'ing stupid!
 
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