A Part Of Our Legacy

BJ#1FAN said:
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We can't even afford to take care of our own here, so at some point we're going to have to look in the mirror and say we can't save everyone.

Pick and choose your battles, not fight all of them.
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We can't afford to take care of our own? Is that because this country can't afford it or is a large percentage of that due to people's lack of accountability and lack of responsibility for themselves, thier duties and their actions?
 
BJ#1FAN said:
Speaking against Hamas and ISIS would be redundant, just as speaking about Al Qaeda is redundant since we've been doing it in this country for 13 years.

I don't need to wave it in your face that I don't like what they're doing. The problem I have is the tactics western countries are using to try and eliminate the problem. Do you agree that we're never going to get rid of Hamas, Al Aqaeda, and ISIS, as long as we keep hurting innocents? Do you agree that the more we kill muslim innocents in collateral damage, that it's only going to encourage more innocents to turn into bad guys? Or are you of the belief we just keep shooting and bombing until we wipe them out (which is not going to happen).

If Jesus were alive today, he wouldn't be leading the calvary to kill all these muslims. He'd probably take all the fire in his direction to prevent more people from being killed.

You want equal blame, just like conservatives who think 98% to 2% in the scientific community is "up for debate" on climate change.
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Do you agree that Hamas, Isis and al Qaeda don't want to compromise they just want to fight?
 
Krgrecw said:
We can't afford to take care of our own? Is that because this country can't afford it or is a large percentage of that due to people's lack of accountability and lack of responsibility for themselves, thier duties and their actions?
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Veterans are first that come to mind. Right?
 
Krgrecw said:
Do you agree that Hamas, Isis and al Qaeda don't want to compromise they just want to fight?
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Only Hamas has a real presence in an actual government.

The other 2 are just rogue extremist groups.

And yes they just want to fight, but we're not going to eliminate them by continuing to bomb and kill innocents as collateral damage.
 
BJ#1FAN said:
Speaking against Hamas and ISIS would be redundant, just as speaking about Al Qaeda is redundant since we've been doing it in this country for 13 years.

I don't need to wave it in your face that I don't like what they're doing. The problem I have is the tactics western countries are using to try and eliminate the problem. Do you agree that we're never going to get rid of Hamas, Al Aqaeda, and ISIS, as long as we keep hurting innocents? Do you agree that the more we kill muslim innocents in collateral damage, that it's only going to encourage more innocents to turn into bad guys? Or are you of the belief we just keep shooting and bombing until we wipe them out (which is not going to happen).

If Jesus were alive today, he wouldn't be leading the calvary to kill all these muslims. He'd probably take all the fire in his direction to prevent more people from being killed.

You want equal blame, just like conservatives who think 98% to 2% in the scientific community is "up for debate" on climate change.
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I'll give you this, you are a stubborn cuss.
 
BJ#1FAN said:
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We can't even afford to take care of our own here, so at some point we're going to have to look in the mirror and say we can't save everyone.

Pick and choose your battles, not fight all of them.
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So you would stop a genocide if it doesn't cost that much?
 
BJ#1FAN said:
Only Hamas has a real presence in an actual government.

The other 2 are just rogue extremist groups.

And yes they just want to fight, but we're not going to eliminate them by continuing to bomb and kill innocents as collateral damage.
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So how do you "eliminate" Hamas?
 
BedellBrave said:
So how do you "eliminate" Hamas?
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For starters stop knowingly bombing innocents as collateral damage for taking out 1 or 2 hamas militants. Show the PLO you're serious about finding a solution. Then comes the settlements... and eventually you'll need Abbas to come up with a real map for 2 state solution.
 
BJ#1FAN said:
For starters stop knowingly bombing innocents as collateral damage for taking out 1 or 2 hamas militants. Show the PLO you're serious about finding a solution. Then comes the settlements... and eventually you'll need Abbas to come up with a real map for 2 state solution.
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PLO would do this Hamas won't. They don't care about settlements, they want the borders open to bring in more weapons to destroy Israel, period. Israel should give back the land they took but you can't do that when you are being shot at constantly. Hamas is the problem, not the solution. If the PLO
get rid of them, then talks began and Israel has to give back settlements and if they don't they will be shunned by everyone.
 
Problem is that we don't know if Hamas would come to the table because Israel isn't willing ot come to the table. Israel potentially had a chance at peace about 15 years ago and instead chose war.

THat being said, I'm still fairly sure Hamas is sponsored by Israel and just part of Israel's plan to take over the land of Canaan. Israel I'm sure learned from the US that the best way to drum up support is to have some fake enemies. How many people think ISIS is a big problem in the world? You all fell for it as ISIS like Al Queda, like Boko Haram, are all US sponsored terrorists. Sure in some different degree than another but we are either directly or indirectly giving these people what they need to create strife in the middle east to expand our middle eastern agenda.
 
zitothebrave said:
Problem is that we don't know if Hamas would come to the table because Israel isn't willing ot come to the table. Israel potentially had a chance at peace about 15 years ago and instead chose war.

THat being said, I'm still fairly sure Hamas is sponsored by Israel and just part of Israel's plan to take over the land of Canaan. Israel I'm sure learned from the US that the best way to drum up support is to have some fake enemies. How many people think ISIS is a big problem in the world? You all fell for it as ISIS like Al Queda, like Boko Haram, are all US sponsored terrorists. Sure in some different degree than another but we are either directly or indirectly giving these people what they need to create strife in the middle east to expand our middle eastern agenda.
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Tin foil hat much?

And what agenda would that be?
 
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AerchAngel said:
Tin foil hat much?

And what agenda would that be?
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Resources. I'll use the classic example of Julius Caesar.

Caesar was in dept. To get out of debt he further invaded Gaul to acquire resources and make himself rich.

In other words invading countries with resources to spare is a good way of acquiring wealth. Of course the government won't take that wealth, it will go to private industries who will then line the pockets of the senators and congress folk who will then keep doing this on the backs of the American people
 
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