WHO TO TRADE? WHO TO KEEP?

- Wouldnt trade Simmons even if we have "options" to replace him.

- Heyward i would trade if we cant re-sign him. Better to get something for him than let him walk for a useless draft pick.

- I'd wait next year with Mike, not like we have any other options. Avilan i'd wait it out one more year.

- We should but will we, i dont know.

- I would re-sign Erv, but i doubt Frank does re-sign him. Just offer him the QO, and take the pick.

- Good question with BJ, might have to throw in Gattis to take on something manageable in return.
 
If you can trade BJ, you do it. I wouldn't object to trading CJ if we were confident in a replacement, but I don't think he's really a problem. I think we need to do whatever we can to re-sign Justin and Heyward. However if it becomes apparent one of them is not interested I would trade them if we could get a big return. As far as Andrelton, someone would have to blow us away with an offer, but I wouldn't be interested unless it was just a fantastic offer.

Re-signing Jason and Justin needs to be the priority, but if that is not impossible we need to be explore all options.
 
Unless the big return for Jason or Justin is someone who can produce at a 4 WAR clip now, then you don't trade them. We're a team with a limited window to win while we have all these young talented players together. We shouldn't be trading off a chance at the playoffs.

But I agree we need to keep those 2 around. Open up the coffers a bit and keep them around. I'm confident in our ability to replace our pitchers who leave. I have no confidence in our offensive position prospects though.
 
I'm also on board with resigning Jason and Justin, but how much will it take per contract to sign each guy? I'm thinking we may be able to pull a 5-year/75 Million dollar kind of contract for Justin, he doesn't seem like the kind of guy who is going to freak out over money... but Jason could be a bit worse. Maybe 4-year/90 Million?
 
You need three anchor players (especially in the NL) and we have one signed long term in Freeman. I think keeping Heyward and Justin Upton is crucial.

Here are some of my other opinions. I doubt Simmons is ever going to hit consistently. He doesn't have to do that to retain considerable value because of his hitting skills, but I think a lot of folks who think he's somehow going to magically develop into a better hitter simply because he's young are fooling themselves. Simmons is a ball-in-play arm swinger. Whatever he generates offensively is a bonus.

I'm not sold on Gattis for the long term. Not that good defensively and he seems to get nicked quite a bit (which is understandable for a catcher). I hope Bethancourt can at least hit .250/.300/.400 (a real push) so that we can get the optimum out of Gattis.

Funny how the bullpen went from impermeable to where it is right now. I'm on pins and needles with everyone but Kimbrel.

Don't know what to do about Santana. He's had a couple of games this season where I can see the $14 million, but he's been a bit more inconsistent than I had hoped he'd be. Teheran and Wood are solid, but after that we've been scuffling.

Not a lot of immediate help in the minors. Some mid-level starters and bullpen guys. I think Peraza is the real deal, but we'll have to see.
 
Heyward doesn't deserve a big extension without consistently demonstrating the expecations placed on him since his first MLB game. He and his agent might not be amenable to much besides free agency anyway, when that becomes an option. Some believe that he'll be a Yankee, if not potential replacement for Beltran.
 
Knucksie said:
Heyward doesn't deserve a big extension without consistently demonstrating the expecations placed on him since his first MLB game. He and his agent might not be amenable to much besides free agency anyway, when that becomes an option. Some believe that he'll be a Yankee, if not potential replacement for Beltran.
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LMAO Jason isn't worth it.

It's gold like this that keeps me coming to this board. Is he worth most money in majors? No but he's worth Choo/Freeman money for sure. If we can get him to sign below that cause of his offensive numbers not being on par with those 2 then we're golden.
 
UNCBlue012 said:
I'm also on board with resigning Jason and Justin, but how much will it take per contract to sign each guy? I'm thinking we may be able to pull a 5-year/75 Million dollar kind of contract for Justin, he doesn't seem like the kind of guy who is going to freak out over money... but Jason could be a bit worse. Maybe 4-year/90 Million?
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Heyward will cost at least what Freeman got, i agree with Justin that he might not sign an insanely huge deal in terms of AAV.
 
Knucksie said:
Heyward doesn't deserve a big extension without consistently demonstrating the expecations placed on him since his first MLB game. He and his agent might not be amenable to much besides free agency anyway, when that becomes an option. Some believe that he'll be a Yankee, if not potential replacement for Beltran.
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And who replaces Jason then if he's so easy to replace.

Someone in our weak system?

A worse player in FA?

Trade?

I wouldnt give him 30 mil a year or anything but if they can sign him for what Freeman got, they should do it ASAP.

Regards to the Yankees, they already have Gardner and Ellsbury signed for awhile, and both are lefty, and of course McCann too. But possible. He'd get a huge deal if he hit the market, terrific player.
 
I really hope Jason is next. Then, I hope ownership nuts up for JUp.

We'd have to go with a three-man rotation, but beggars can't be choosers, I guess.
 
We've been able to get so many pitchers to come up and perform for us.

Previous 4 seasons our pitchers have been (10 starts or more)

Minor
Medlen
Julio
Maholm
Huddy
Wood
Hanson
Delgado
Beachy
Lowe
Kawakami

So that's a healthy number of guys we've brought up to various successes.

Looking at the horizon in A+ ball or higher we have a few guys who could be ready for us in the coming years

Wes Parsons, Jason Hursh(from what I've seen I really like him), Graham (though pen may be his destination), Mauricio Cabrera (also seems destined for the pen), Cody Martin, Aaron Northcraft, and many more who may come into the picture.
 
sturg33 said:
I wonder if Braxton Davidson will factor in the decision of signing both Upton/Heyward long term.
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He's pretty much a left fielder at the higher levels. Don't see him as factor with Heyward at least.
 
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