If I were Braves GM

Enscheff

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I just read a couple of pretty good articles over on Tomahawk Take detailing what two writers would do if they were GM this offseason.

The first one describes how a BJ plus cash to Toronto for Buerhle might work:

http://tomahawktake.com/2014/10/09/...tm_medium=Network&utm_campaign=Trending on FS

My comments: In general, way too much roster turnover to be realistic. I hate the ideas of trading JUp and/or Heyward, especially while keeping CJ. Selling low on Minor would be a mistake in my opinion. CB is not ready to be an everyday MLB catcher on either side of the ball, so trading Gattis would also be a blunder. He also assumes the payroll will be near the $112M it was last season, but I think we can all agree the Santana contract was a one-time thing, and payroll will be closer to $100M. The lineup is also ridiculously LHed heavy.

On the plus side, I LOVE the Valbuena acquisition. I think he is someone the Braves should key in on this offseason.

The second article describes how to unload BJ, Minor plus cash to the Cubs for Edwin Jackson, Luis Valbuena, and Chris Coghlan:

http://tomahawktake.com/2014/09/30/offseason-atlanta-braves-gm/

My comments: This one comes in at a more reasonable $100M payroll, but he doesn't even fill the #4 slot in the rotation (?????? will log exactly 0 IP in 2015). No way in hell do I see the Braves signing Shields for 5 years after just dealing with the Lowe, Uggla and BJ disasters. I vehemently disagree about selling low on Minor, and trading JUp for prospects (he didn't even name possible targets) is not the way to get back to the playoffs.

Again, I LOVE the Valbuena acquisition. I like that he kept Gattis, and dumped CJ so he could go with a Goss/Valby (tm) platoon at 3B. I also love the idea of a Dexter Fowler acquisition.

Since just bashing other folks' ideas without offering my own GM plan for scrutiny would be poor internet form, he is what I would do:

First and foremost I don't think BJ has to go anywhere. This is not the Uggla situation where he is complete dead weight on the roster. We are still talking about a premium athlete with a (very) small chance to turn back into a dynamic player, who at the very worst can serve as a 4th/5th OFer capable of playing CF and being a valuable pinch runner. Most rosters have a player exactly like that, even though they don't usually make $15M per year. Fact of the matter is the Braves don't have anyone better in the organization to fill that slot on the bench, so it makes little sense to include tons of cash and controllable talent just to move BJ...so BJ stays...on the bench...with his ticket to AAA pre-purchased.

However, the OF absolutely MUST be fixed, and it must be fixed by acquiring a guy that can hit at the top of the lineup. This man does not need to be able to play CF since Heyward can slide over, but he must not be a butcher in a corner OF slot. He also can not be insanely expensive, nor can he cost a draft pick to acquire (the Braves pick 16th). Acceptable options are signing Nori Aoki or Torii Hunter, and trading for Dexter Fowler. Either of those 3 guys could join Heyward to form a legitimate 1-2 combo at the top of the lineup. Caveat: If it is decided that one of Heyward or Justin be traded this offseason, the team should look closely into signing the Cuban, Mr. Tomas.

I will NOT sell low on Minor. It's just not happening 1 year after a cost controlled 26 year old LHer put up a 3.1 WAR season by logging 204 IP with a FIP of 3.37. Sorry, but Minor gets his chance to rebound and will slot into the #4 slot of the rotation. The #3 slot needs to be filled by a legit middle of the rotation arm that won't cost an arm and a leg to acquire. After offering a QO to Santana, he is an option if he signs for around 3/40. If he accepts the 1/15 deal that comes with the QO, fine, the rotation is set at a very slight overpay for one year. Other options are Brandon McCarthy at around 3/36, Justin Masterson at 1/12-14, and AJ Burnett on a 1-2 year deal if he doesn't go back to the Phils. The 5th slot can be a battle between internal options like Hale, and any scrap heap additions the Braves are so adept at acquiring.

I will bring in Luis Valbuena, even if I can't unload CJ. Oh yeah, I will try to unload CJ, but I'm going to assume nobody wants him. CJ would be a serious non-tender candidate (which I predicted last offseason), but now the Braves are locked into him for a few years. Give the Cubs whatever fungible pitching assets they want, but Valbuena will be wearing a Braves uniform in 2015. He will play 3B in a platoon with either Goss or CJ, and will also be insurance in case TLS doesn't work out at 2B and/or if Peraza is not ready by the middle/end of 2015.

Gattis stays. Period. CB gets to back him up 2-3 games per week. Having that kind of power bat on the roster for league minimum is something this team quite simply can not afford to give up.

Your 2015 Atlanta Braves:

Gattis $0.5
Freeman $8.5
TLS $0.5
Valby $3.0
Simmons $3.0
Justin $14.5
Heyward $7.8
Aoki $5.0

CB $0.5
Goss $0.5
BJ $14.5
Terdo $0.5
CJ $6.0

Teheran $1.0
Wood $0.5
Minor $5.0
Santana $14.0
SP5 $1.0

Kimbrel $9.0
Walden $2.5
Shae $0.5
Avilan $0.5
Varvaro $1.0
BP6 $1.0
BP7 $0.5

total $101.3
 
So basically the same team? Im not opposed to that but why would things be different this time around? Same core, same manager spells a repeat of 2014. I would EXPLORE trades for everyone not named Julio or Alex
 
go turn in an application at turner field

cause we need one still

beware, upper management is going to tell you what to do though and you really will be nothing more than a puppet to their moves they have been making
 
The trades that article lists are AWFUL outside of BJ. Mike Minor and Justin for Gardner? Gattis for Reddick? What drugs is he on? Also...6 years $140M for Heyward is crazy for someone that hasn't put anything together offensively yet.

But deciding what to do with Justin & Heyward is going to be a challenge. I'm sure we can't keep both long term and we can't let either just walk away after next year for nothing. I think we have to trade one.
 
Gattis stays. Period. CB gets to back him up 2-3 games per week.

You won my heart here. You don't want to separate Wood and Minor in that rotation? I'd still love to add speed and OBP.
 
The trades that article lists are AWFUL outside of BJ. Mike Minor and Justin for Gardner? Gattis for Reddick? What drugs is he on? Also...6 years $140M for Heyward is crazy for someone that hasn't put anything together offensively yet.

But deciding what to do with Justin & Heyward is going to be a challenge. I'm sure we can't keep both long term and we can't let either just walk away after next year for nothing. I think we have to trade one.

A team that is expecting to contend (which the Braves most certainly are, despite their poor 2014) can only afford to trade away an MLB cornerstone asset like Justin or Heyward under 2 circumstances:

1. They have an in house replacement like the Mac/Gattis situation, or
2. They get a cost controlled return that fills another hole on the MLB roster.

Since #1 is obviously out of the question, the return for either player must be cost controlled for the next 2-3 years and fill the need in the OF (which would be a dumb trade for the other team), SP, 3B or 2B. Since there are internal options at 3B and 2B, and Peraza is a longer term option in CF, the return would most likely need to be a cost controlled SP that can slot in the 2-3 spot of the rotation right now.

So which contending teams need an OFer and can send a cost controlled #2/#3 SP?
 
Gattis stays. Period. CB gets to back him up 2-3 games per week.

You won my heart here. You don't want to separate Wood and Minor in that rotation? I'd still love to add speed and OBP.

That was just the order I filled in my spreadsheet. The order would likely go Teheran, Wood, Santana, Minor, #5. Batting order would likely go Heyward, Aoki, Justin, Freddie, Gattis, Valbly/CJ, TLS/Goss, Simmons. When CB starts he hits 7th and everyone else slides up one spot.

Replacing BJ and CJ with Aoki and Valby adds tons of OBP, and maybe a little speed. A 1-2 of Heyward and Aoki is plenty fast for a team that historically steals very few bases. Imagine how many RBI Freddie would have hitting behind 3 guys with ~.350 OBPs. Imagine if Fowler and his ~.375 was in there instead of Aoki.
 
Actually I'm the new GM, and every player I acquire whether it be the most expensive player or the 25th man on the roster, or AAA filler material, or any draft pick or international signing will be a championship caliber player. Wait and see, watch and be amazed Braves nation, this is an exciting time to be a fan and we are beginning a new era with unprecedented territory for success. Yes indeed we are back, back to the Braves way. I have surrounded myself with a championship caliber staff from assistants, special assistants, scouts, coaches, managers and just good baseball people. Yes indeed Braves nation, we will field a championship caliber team year in and year out.
 
Actually I'm the new GM, and every player I acquire whether it be the most expensive player or the 25th man on the roster, or AAA filler material, or any draft pick or international signing will be a championship caliber player. Wait and see, watch and be amazed Braves nation, this is an exciting time to be a fan and we are beginning a new era with unprecedented territory for success. Yes indeed we are back, back to the Braves way. I have surrounded myself with a championship caliber staff from assistants, special assistants, scouts, coaches, managers and just good baseball people. Yes indeed Braves nation, we will field a championship caliber team year in and year out.

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Gattis does not need to be on this team next yr unless he is playing LF. He is not going to stick at catcher in the majors, and his defense the 2nd half of the yr pretty much proved that.

I don't like CB either because of his anemic offense. But I do have faith that he will be a massive upgrade on defense. As long as we improve in other areas on offense, then hopefully it won't be that noticeable. If CB can hit around .250 and not strike out once every 4-5 at bats, then he can be an asset.

I think the three teams that match up the best for a BJ trade are the Cubbies, Tigers, and Jays. My favorite idea involves moving BJ, Minor, and other pieces in a trade for Verlander and cash.
 
That Verlander idea is really interesting. It would give the Tigers the money to sign Scherzer and Price.
 
That Verlander idea is really interesting. It would give the Tigers the money to sign Scherzer and Price.

Do you really want to hook up with Verlander for five years the way he backslid in 2014? Here is his info from Cot's contracts:

Justin Verlander rhp

7 years/$180M (2013-19), plus 2020 vesting option
signed extension with Detroit 3/29/13
replaced final two years of previous deal
15:$28M, 16:$28M, 17:$28M, 18:$28M, 19:$28M, 20:$22M vesting option
2020 option guaranteed with top 5 finish in 2019 Cy Young vote
award bonuses, including $0.1M for All-Star selection
no-trade protection
5 years/$80M (2010-14)
signed extension with Detroit 2/4/10 (avoided arbitration, $9.5M-$6.9M)
 
Do you really want to hook up with Verlander for five years the way he backslid in 2014? Here is his info from Cot's contracts:

Justin Verlander rhp

7 years/$180M (2013-19), plus 2020 vesting option
signed extension with Detroit 3/29/13
replaced final two years of previous deal
15:$28M, 16:$28M, 17:$28M, 18:$28M, 19:$28M, 20:$22M vesting option
2020 option guaranteed with top 5 finish in 2019 Cy Young vote
award bonuses, including $0.1M for All-Star selection
no-trade protection
5 years/$80M (2010-14)
signed extension with Detroit 2/4/10 (avoided arbitration, $9.5M-$6.9M)

I'd rather watch BJ suck it up in center for the next 3 years than be stuck with Verlander's contract.
 
I guess it would depend on how much they kicked in but yeah 28 is way to much for him and his decline. I'd rather sign Price when he hits FA.
 
I guess it would depend on how much they kicked in but yeah 28 is way to much for him and his decline. I'd rather sign Price when he hits FA.

Tigers will re-sign him assuming they dont keep Scherzer.

Not that we would even if Price hit FA.
 
Has Hart officially announced yet, or is he still pretending not to be the full-time guy while he makes all the decisions for everyone?
 
Do you really want to hook up with Verlander for five years the way he backslid in 2014? Here is his info from Cot's contracts:

Justin Verlander rhp

7 years/$180M (2013-19), plus 2020 vesting option

signed extension with Detroit 3/29/13

replaced final two years of previous deal

15:$28M, 16:$28M, 17:$28M, 18:$28M, 19:$28M, 20:$22M vesting option

2020 option guaranteed with top 5 finish in 2019 Cy Young vote

award bonuses, including $0.1M for All-Star selection

no-trade protection

5 years/$80M (2010-14)

signed extension with Detroit 2/4/10 (avoided arbitration, $9.5M-$6.9M)

Verlander didn't have that bad of a yr actually. FIP of 3.74 in over 200 innings pitched. Guy is a work horse. He was a little unlucky combined with some natural decline. I think he'd pitch much better in the NL.

Obviously, in such a scenario, the Tigers would be sending some money to cover JV. Something like 50 million spread over the course of the contract. Would take his annual salary down to around 18-20 million on our end.
 
Verlander is hard to say.

Has a massive contract, but he's only 32 although alot of innings on that arm.

I'm not sure what we'd have to give up for him and how much they'd have to eat.
 
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