zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
I'm still more OK with that than Myers for shields, because position players and prospects are more stable than pitching prospects and players.
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I'm still more OK with that than Myers for shields, because position players and prospects are more stable than pitching prospects and players.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
I'm not shocked, the Braves have a tendency of kicking people on the way out of the door. It happened to Leo, it happened to others as well. Unlesss they want someone to come back.
If it was David Price instead of Shields would that have made the deal better?
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
Yes. Because the ceiling for Price is way higher.
Shields had a boss year before they traded for him and Wade Davis was serviceable.
In hindsight trading for Shields and getting to the playoffs for the first time in decades worked out.
Myers may never live up to the hype.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
He may never. But trades cannot be evaluated in hindsight. Myers could have been used in a differnet trade, or could hav eproduced way more. You never know.
Dayton was looking for the best deal possible and Myers was his best trading chip. Davis is in the pen now but 2 reliable starting pitchers with one being an ace on most teams was a fair trade.
Yeah, these guys coming back to the organization is not a signal of the type of person Wren was.
Dalyn
Fredi Gonzalez Supporter
I doubt it is just a coincidence.
It isn't and I was and still am a big Wren supporter. I think he was a solid GM but baseball is an organizational team structure. The GM often gets way too much credit and too much blame. Just like any other corporation you are only as strong as the people you put around you and too many great talent evaulators left the organization.
That's not what I meant. Some team always gets lucky/hot in the postseason, and that team is never the Braves. The Braves always end up being that team that chokes or gets a bad break they can't recover from.
CyYoung31
Shift Leader
This is the most disturbing question.
Heyward
<B>Voted Worst Poster <br>'13, '14, '15 (Co-Winner
Still dumb especially if he walks, and Myers turns into a stud for the next decade.
Yes it looks good if they win the WS, i suppose.
If all they got for Shields is a WS (awesome), and Wade Davis, then thats still a horrible move.
If they lost in the WC game, would he still be around?
Heyward
<B>Voted Worst Poster <br>'13, '14, '15 (Co-Winner
Fair question, honestly.
Royals make the playoffs for the first time in 29 years, and now they're about to make the WS.
Carpe says the playoffs arent a crapshoot though.
cajunrevenge
Well-known member
Its a braves tradition at this point.
rico43
<B>Director of Minor League Reports</B>
Zito sez
I'm not shocked, the Braves have a tendency of kicking people on the way out of the door. It happened to Leo, it happened to others as well. Unlesss they want someone to come back.
Its a braves tradition at this point.
If some of your aren't veteran fans, it is a depressing list:
Leo Mazzone
Glenn Hubbard
Javy Lopez
Frank Wren
Jim Schultz (PR man)
Andruw Jones (arguably)
Pat Corrales
Stan Kasten
Sure I could think of more if I wanted to get really depressed
I'm not shocked, the Braves have a tendency of kicking people on the way out of the door. It happened to Leo, it happened to others as well. Unlesss they want someone to come back.
Its a braves tradition at this point.
If some of your aren't veteran fans, it is a depressing list:
Leo Mazzone
Glenn Hubbard
Javy Lopez
Frank Wren
Jim Schultz (PR man)
Andruw Jones (arguably)
Pat Corrales
Stan Kasten
Sure I could think of more if I wanted to get really depressed
Braves1976
It's OVER 5,000!
Yep, they also did it with Smoltz among others. Nothing new here.
Braves1976
It's OVER 5,000!
Yep, pretty much my point too.