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How do we know 'bama is a top team?

16 team playoff:

2nd weekend November = 8 teams
Thanksgiving weekend = 4 teams
Army-Navy weekend = 2 teams
1st weekend in Jan = Championship

Football being such an emotion and scheme game - every two weeks to mend and scheme.
I dont think there is a nickels worth of difference between teams 1-4 - unless they actually play one another.
See who wins

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On another note or two ,
The KC Royals are in the playoffs not the Oakland A's or the other extreme Washington Nats .

FSU loses most every week between the 20's. That makes for good back and forth conversation but hardly defines a championship
The age old metric the team with the most points at the end of 60 minutes wins
Gators lost to a team by 29 with the winning team gaining only 119 yards. By Carp / Weso definition that would be a quality loss ??
 
57Brave said:
Home field advantage in Vegas is worth 3 points. ND lost by 4
How does that qualify as a quality loss .

Are we as western civilization ready to abandon the notion of points and scores and who actually wins and loses?
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Are you seriously saying that a loss the loss to FSU wasn't impressive? Or just trolling?

By that logic, ND loses by 1 on a neurtral field and wins by 2 at home. Still a bad loss?
 
No , the only metric to measure losses is point spread or, -this is just what "I" think

the whole notion of a "quality loss" is an oxymoron
A loss is a loss is a loss.

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It was impressive in that for the first 30 minutes ND outscored FSU by 7. The second 30 FSU outscored ND by 11.
Kinda like the Cards did real good against the Giants the other night until the 8th and 9th innings.
Wainright was good until he couldn't pitch in the 8th
Just like ND was good until they got figured out
 
I have never agreed about there being such a thing as a "good loss." A loss is bad no matter how you slice it. However losing on the road against the number 1 team in the nation and almost winning the game is viewed in a different light. There are definitely bad losses. Losing against a team you should beat is always a bad loss.

So some losses are worse than others at least on the surface. I agree that there different types of losses though. But the end of the the number in the L column counts the same.
 
57Brave said:
How do we know 'bama is a top team?

16 team playoff:

2nd weekend November = 8 teams
Thanksgiving weekend = 4 teams
Army-Navy weekend = 2 teams
1st weekend in Jan = Championship

Football being such an emotion and scheme game - every two weeks to mend and scheme.
I dont think there is a nickels worth of difference between teams 1-4 - unless they actually play one another.
See who wins

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On another note or two ,
The KC Royals are in the playoffs not the Oakland A's or the other extreme Washington Nats .

FSU loses most every week between the 20's. That makes for good back and forth conversation but hardly defines a championship
The age old metric the team with the most points at the end of 60 minutes wins
Gators lost to a team by 29 with the winning team gaining only 119 yards. By Carp / Weso definition that would be a quality loss ??
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See my previous post. They have more talent than nearly every single team in the nation. And they have Nick Saban, who has won 3 titles with Bama and another with LSU. I'm sorry this is so difficult to comprehend.

I think a better question is, how do we know that FSU is a top team?
 
57Brave said:
No , the only metric to measure losses is point spread or, -this is just what "I" think

the whole notion of a "quality loss" is an oxymoron

A loss is a loss is a loss.

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It was impressive in that for the first 30 minutes ND outscored FSU by 7. The second 30 FSU outscored ND by 11.

Kinda like the Cards did real good against the Giants the other night until the 8th and 9th innings.

Wainright was good until he couldn't pitch in the 8th

Just like ND was good until they got figured out
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A loss is a loss? In what bizarre world do you live in? Are you honestly gonna sit here and say that if Ms State only loss is Ole Miss and Baylor's 1 loss is to WV, that Baylor is the better team?

When ranking teams with the same (or similar) records, the quality of the loss is extremely important. And I guarantee you if FSU loses to Louisville this weekend, you will be pitching a fit about quality losses if some team like UGA jumps them.
 
CFB changes from season to season. Crimson could probably speak to this better but there were reports of boredom and burnout in Saban last year.
As far as talent, the Nats and Angels were arguably the most talented teams in MLB 2014
Interesting link to talent
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...he-pros-top-25-cfb-teams-with-most-nfl-talent

FSU's won loss record over the past 3 seasons speaks to their top team status

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At Louisville on a Thursday night is a problem . No I won't because I think Georgia the best SEC team. With Gurley they would be unstoppable right now. Teams don't win 24-25 games in a row -- law of averages fit in ther somewhere.
So, 16 team playoff -- whatcha think?
 
I like a 4 team playoff personally. It helps to make sure you don't get another Auburn situation where you had them undefeated and deserving of a chance at the championship.

If you're borderline top 4 then you don't deserve a shot at a championship. The one fix I'd like to see is that I think it should be kept to the major power conferences and would like to see them split off from the lesser conferences.

With a 16 team playoff you're asking these kids to play a lot of violent football. I mean that's a full 16 game schedule for the teams that make the championship game assuming they play a conference championship game.

I personally think they should play less games.
 
57Brave said:
CFB changes from season to season. Crimson could probably speak to this better but there were reports of boredom and burnout in Saban last year.
As far as talent, the Nats and Angels were arguably the most talented teams in MLB 2014
Interesting link to talent
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...he-pros-top-25-cfb-teams-with-most-nfl-talent

FSU's won loss record over the past 3 seasons speaks to their top team status

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At Louisville on a Thursday night is a problem . No I won't because I think Georgia the best SEC team. With Gurley they would be unstoppable right now. Teams don't win 24-25 games in a row -- law of averages fit in ther somewhere.
So, 16 team playoff -- whatcha think?
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MLB and NFL are completely different animals. The talent levels among the worst and best teams aren't that different.

IN CFB, talent level is HUGE. The talent level between a team like Bama and teams like Florida Atlantic is massive. And that's why you saw them blowout FAU. Sure, every blue moon you see a Appalachian State take down a Michigan, but that's extremely rare and usually happens on teams that have been struggling.

And Bama's W-L status over that span is among the best in the nation as well, if not the best.
 
57, Jimbos starting to take a lot of flak from the media. if it does come out that Winston didn't something bad, FSU has to let Jimbo go.
 
Amari Cooper is unreal. UT actually has a good secondary with a cover corner who has shut down some pretty good receivers and he's just torching us.
 
CrimsonCowboy said:
Did not end that first half well at all. Got to regain the intensity
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Dobbs is the guy us UT fans have been waiting on. I just think it's a case of he's been playing better in practice the last several weeks and he's just a dymanic player at the QB position and in incredibly smart. Should've been redshirted last season. I don't think you lost the intensity, I just think it was a case of well here's a QB that can run and throw the ball a bit.

You should be very happy with Bama's performance offensively though. I'm telling you that you are going up against a very good defense and I can tell you that this is easily the best offense we have played.
 
CrimsonCowboy said:
Nice job Bama. You've let them right back in this game. Pathetic
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I'm telling you that Dobbs is playing great football right now. We're a decent team with suddenly a dynamic QB. Lots of young talent on our roster. The good news is that you guys are going to win, but Bama isn't facing a Dooley team here.
 
Good game, weso. Tennessee showed some serious fight tonight. Dobbs can play.

For Bama, an off week before a HUGE two weeks, starting in Baton Rouge against LSU.
 
Not a good day for the SEC West.

But, I did get to see the worst executed on sides kick in history.
Never saw one returned for a TD before
 
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