UFO/Aliens

Krgrecw said:
Maybe they will enslave us maybe they won't, but you know what?
There's not a damn thing we could do about it if they wanted to enslave us.

i don't believe in aliens or anything but if they did exist I Wouldn't want to know. The only person who matters is the one on top of the food chain and if aliens did exist they'd be on top and we wouldn't.
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Do you not believe there are other creatures somewhere in the universe?
 
Gary82 said:
Even if there are advanced life forms that have the ability or desire to leave their planet and have been around since the beginning of the big bang, the chances of them finding us are still minute. What would be the point of traveling to our neighborhood, anyway? We've only been putting out radio waves and **** for a short period of time. If they found us, it was by accident/dumb ****ing luck.

Again, it's possible, but I doubt it.
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Suppose there's an advanced civilization out there in our own Milky Way galaxy that has interstellar travel. There are about 100-400 billion stars in the Milky Way for them to explore and find us. That does sounds daunting. However, if this advanced civilization is several billion years old that would give them quite a bit of time to find us.
 
Krgrecw said:
yeezus said:
Do you not believe there are other creatures somewhere in the universe?[/QUOTE

Nope. I get the argument that the universe is so big so something must be out there, but that doesn't mean that something is out there.
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I'd say it most likely does. I don't really see a reason to just say "I don't believe it." Maybe "I don't know." Unless it's religious based disbelief.
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If you're assuming there is no God, and we are here randomly (an assumption that I'm not making, by the way), then I think it's fair to doubt other beings out there besides us.

The odds of us being here from pure randomness... gotta be like 1 in infinity. For it happen twice? Seems far-fetched to me
 
Krgrecw said:
Nope. I get the argument that the universe is so big so something must be out there, but that doesn't mean that something is out there.
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Mathematically it's virtually impossible to there not be life on other planets. There are an estimated over 100 billion galaxies, our own Milky Way has an estimated 300 billion stars, if you figure similar numbers in other universes that means there could potentially be septillions or octillions or stars out there, what are the odds that there wouldn't be one rock floating around a few of them that support life as we know it, much less life that can survive on different stuff than what's on earth.

Hell we don't know that there isn't life in our own solar system, now odds are it isn't intelligent life, but there could be life on Titan, Europa, or Enceladus are moons that could potentially harbor life.
 
sturg33 said:
If you're assuming there is no God, and we are here randomly (an assumption that I'm not making, by the way), then I think it's fair to doubt other beings out there besides us.

The odds of us being here from pure randomness... gotta be like 1 in infinity. For it happen twice? Seems far-fetched to me
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Far-fetched in an ever expanding, limitless space? That's been around for billions of years? There is most certainly life elsewhere.
 
yeezus said:
Far-fetched in an ever expanding, limitless space? That's been around for billions of years? There is most certainly life elsewhere.
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Especially because we know that are a large amount of planets that could support life in the way the Earth has. Additionlly, there may very well be life out there that can flourish under difference conditions. Just the Mathematics of it seems impossible to me that there is nothing out there.
 
Mathematics and science say that it is impossible for there to be another lifeform to be out there until another life form is spotted.

There's seven billion people in the world. Surely there has to be one other person that has the same DNa and same fingerprint as you right? I mean there's seven billion people afterall.
 
Krgrecw said:
Mathematics and science say that it is impossible for there to be another lifeform to be out there until another life form is spotted.

There's seven billion people in the world. Surely there has to be one other person that has the same DNa and same fingerprint as you right? I mean there's seven billion people afterall.
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The amount of people on this planet is infinitesimally small in comparison to the vastness of the universe.
 
Krgrecw said:
Mathematics
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Krgrecw said:
Mathematics and science say that it is impossible for there to be another lifeform to be out there until another life form is spotted.

There's seven billion people in the world. Surely there has to be one other person that has the same DNa and same fingerprint as you right? I mean there's seven billion people afterall.
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Your argument there is for a one in seven billion your argument otherwise is 1 in an unknown but immensely high odds. There could potentially (potentially of course) be a number of planets we cannot imagine out there, if there really is as one astronomer type (forget his title, just read about it a week or 2 ago) 100 Octillion stars (that's a 1 with 29 zeros) then the number of planets could potentially be exponential after that. Our star has 9 planets, some will have less some will have more. And that's just an estimate. We have 300 billion stars just in our Milky Way. You're saying there's a 1 in 300 billion chance that some life doesn't exist in our universe.

Again one in 7 billion vs at least 1 in 300 billion. that's just in our universe. And we don't know there isn't life on other planets in our own universe, whether now or in the past. Remember we've found meteorites with alien bacteria on it.

I'd say the odds of us being alone are much lower than the odds of life existing on other planets. Remember not even what 700 years ago, this is what they thought the world looked like

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That's just our own world not that long ago. We have much to learn of the universe still to this day,
 
Krgrecw said:
Mathematics and science say that it is impossible for there to be another lifeform to be out there until another life form is spotted.

There's seven billion people in the world. Surely there has to be one other person that has the same DNa and same fingerprint as you right? I mean there's seven billion people afterall.
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I don't think you understand DNA, combinations, permutations or numbers.
 
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