So, no Jason extension?!

[UNCBlue012]

@DOBrienAJC: John Hart said #Braves love Heyward, but doesn't anticipate ext. in final year before FA: "My assumption is it's probably the wrong time."

 

[Hawk]

My 'assumption' is that John Hart is a senile tit.

 

[thewupk]

that's good to hear

 

[yeezus]

that's good to hear

Yeah always good to hear we might not have one of our best players for the future.

 

[cajunrevenge]

Probably wants to see an OPS over .800 before shelling out 25 million a year.

 

[Braves1976]

This is disappointing but I am not surprised. I am also not expecting Hart to do much, if any, better here than he did in Texas. Further, I had forgotten just how bad he was in Texas till a poster at MLBTR went over it in detail in the "Braves Name John Hart President Of Baseball Ops" discussion.

 

[thewupk]

Probably wants to see an OPS over .800 before shelling out 25 million a year.

He has done that in 2010 and 2012. And OPS is pretty flawed when judging offensive performance anyways.

 

[Heyward]

This is disappointing but I am not surprised. I am also not expecting Hart to do much, if any, better here than he did in Texas. Further, I had forgotten just how bad he was in Texas till a poster at MLBTR went over it in detail in the "Braves Name John Hart President Of Baseball Ops" discussion.

Always negative, yeesh.

 

[Tapate50]

Then I deal him for a haul and stick with JUp

 

[Heyward]

Then I deal him for a haul and stick with JUp

What type of haul?

 

[Millwood1Hitter]

I don't like assumptions, especially coming from an upper management baseball executive on a critical decesion like this.

I'm hoping it's more press posturing from Hart than anything else to push the Heyward camp forward to get a deal done.....

Because assumptions make an ass out of you. JS once assumed that Maddux wasn't going to accept arbitration, that didn't work out so well. He also assumed that Sheffield had no interest and was priced out of our range, only to cut off dialogue with his camp and that backfired. JS assumed Glavine was coming back.

Don't assume Hart, keep dialogue open.

 

[Tapate50]

What type of haul?

No clue, what would opposing GMs offer?

 

[Hudson2]

They've probably in gaged his side in talks and see he wants to much. We cant just give him whatever he wants. We have a budget. But if this is true and he hits FA (no matter with what team) he's gone.

 

[bravesnumberone]

If we're not going to extent Heyward, we need to trade him for a serious haul and try our best to just win it this year.

Maybe Hart is gonna wait and see how things are going midseason.

 

[Heyward]

No clue, what would opposing GMs offer?

No clue but given teams could just wait a year, keep their prospects, maybe not much.

 

[Heyward]

If we're not going to extent Heyward, we need to trade him for a serious haul and try our best to just win it this year.

Maybe Hart is gonna wait and see how things are going midseason.

We wont win much this year WITH him, in a pickle.

 

[Millwood1Hitter]

For me, no matter where we stand I'm trading Justin...and looking at the landscape and teams that are in win now mode....I'm looking at you Detroit.

Justin, CJ, and Walden would be really intriguing and fill some holes for them with Castellanos and JD Martinez coming our way.

 

[Heyward]

For me, no matter where we stand I'm trading Justin...and looking at the landscape and teams that are in win now mode....I'm looking at you Detroit.

Justin, CJ, and Walden would be really intriguing and fill some holes for them with Castellanos and JD Martinez coming our way.

I'd want more if we're giving them that much.

We have to be able to re-sign one of Justin or Jason with the new stadium.

 

[50PoundHead]

I don't like assumptions, especially coming from an upper management baseball executive on a critical decesion like this.

I'm hoping it's more press posturing from Hart than anything else to push the Heyward camp forward to get a deal done.....

Because assumptions make an ass out of you. JS once assumed that Maddux wasn't going to accept arbitration, that didn't work out so well. He also assumed that Sheffield had no interest and was priced out of our range, only to cut off dialogue with his camp and that backfired. JS assumed Glavine was coming back.

Don't assume Hart, keep dialogue open.

Schuerholz was pretty darn good until he went into his "economics of baseball stink" tizzy. Made a series of really screwball moves and you've listed a couple that really stand out.

 

[Hudson2]

I agree with Heyward. You have to keep one of Justin or Jason going into a new stadium. Which ever one is hesitant to sign. Sounds like it's Heyward. Detroit would Def be a team I talked to.