Braves donate Justin Upton to Padres for prospects

The market seems to be pretty significant if media reports are to be believed. Given the contract of Stanton, I believe JUp's asking price just increased a bit, and RH power is at a premium right now in the game.

I have very little doubt he gets moved this offseason. But I hope Hart and the FO don't sell him cheaply. With our lack of impact prospects close to the bigs, JUp has to bring max value for it to be worth moving him. This is the opportunity to make a franchise changing type deal IMO.

To me, here is a list of prospects we should be targeting from rumored teams of interest. I would demand 2 to 3 top prospects for him.

Rangers: Gallo, Alfaro, Mazara, Williams, LJackson, Thompson

Mariners: Walker, Peterson, Guerrero

Red Sox: Owens, Margot, Devers, Swihart

I don't see a good match with the Astros, as Correa is certainly off the table. Don't see another centerpiece guy there.

To me, the Mariners are the logical choice here.

Swing Jup + for Walker, Peterson, Guerrero and call it a day. This only works if the Braves scouts believe Peterson can play 3B long term.

Deal CJ cheaply for bullpen arms or lower level spect, just to get his salary off the books.

A rotation of Teheran, Walker, Minor, Miller, Wood is solid for years to come.

C-CB

1b-Free

2b-Peraza

SS-Simba

3b-Peterson

OF-Gattis, Melvin, FA defensive sign
 
SidSlid92 said:
The market seems to be pretty significant if media reports are to be believed. Given the contract of Stanton, I believe JUp's asking price just increased a bit, and RH power is at a premium right now in the game.

I have very little doubt he gets moved this offseason. But I hope Hart and the FO don't sell him cheaply. With our lack of impact prospects close to the bigs, JUp has to bring max value for it to be worth moving him. This is the opportunity to make a franchise changing type deal IMO.

To me, here is a list of prospects we should be targeting from rumored teams of interest. I would demand 2 to 3 top prospects for him.

Rangers: Gallo, Alfaro, Mazara, Williams, LJackson, Thompson

Mariners: Walker, Peterson, Guerrero

Red Sox: Owens, Margot, Devers, Swihart

I don't see a good match with the Astros, as Correa is certainly off the table. Don't see another centerpiece guy there.

To me, the Mariners are the logical choice here.

Swing Jup + for Walker, Peterson, Guerrero and call it a day. This only works if the Braves scouts believe Peterson can play 3B long term.

Deal CJ cheaply for bullpen arms or lower level spect, just to get his salary off the books.

A rotation of Teheran, Walker, Minor, Miller, Wood is solid for years to come.

C-CB

1b-Free

2b-Peraza

SS-Simba

3b-Peterson

OF-Gattis, Melvin, FA defensive sign
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While the asking price for Upton is considered "significant" by reports, I doubt it's 2-3 top prospects. I think getting anything above Walker would be gravy, and another B type prospect would be a good get.

I'm not that familiar with all of their prospects though.
 
SidSlid92 said:
The market seems to be pretty significant if media reports are to be believed. Given the contract of Stanton, I believe JUp's asking price just increased a bit, and RH power is at a premium right now in the game.

I have very little doubt he gets moved this offseason. But I hope Hart and the FO don't sell him cheaply. With our lack of impact prospects close to the bigs, JUp has to bring max value for it to be worth moving him. This is the opportunity to make a franchise changing type deal IMO.

To me, here is a list of prospects we should be targeting from rumored teams of interest. I would demand 2 to 3 top prospects for him.

Rangers: Gallo, Alfaro, Mazara, Williams, LJackson, Thompson

Mariners: Walker, Peterson, Guerrero

Red Sox: Owens, Margot, Devers, Swihart

I don't see a good match with the Astros, as Correa is certainly off the table. Don't see another centerpiece guy there.

To me, the Mariners are the logical choice here.

Swing Jup + for Walker, Peterson, Guerrero and call it a day. This only works if the Braves scouts believe Peterson can play 3B long term.

Deal CJ cheaply for bullpen arms or lower level spect, just to get his salary off the books.

A rotation of Teheran, Walker, Minor, Miller, Wood is solid for years to come.

C-CB
1b-Free
2b-Peraza
SS-Simba
3b-Peterson
OF-Gattis, Melvin, FA defensive sign
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I certainly agree with your conclusion that the Mariners are the best match, and maybe the most motivated. I would encourage you to stretch your thinking to include young vets as well as prospects - Paxton, Miller, Saunders are all thoughts I've had in addition to Walker.
 
Tapate50 said:
While the asking price for Upton is considered "significant" by reports, I doubt it's 2-3 top prospects. I think getting anything above Walker would be gravy, and another B type prospect would be a good get.

I'm not that familiar with all of their prospects though.
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Our man in Seattle earlier posted that Paxton is the man to get. He's the former UK stud out of Canada who blew off signing for a year. He's a 6-4 lefty who is 9-4, 2.66 in 17 MLB starts. A lot of persistent buzz about Walker's shoulder has me very wary of going that route. I'd also love to have me some Tom Wilhelmson for the bullpen.
 
Meant to add that the M's might be ready to give up on Dustin Ackley. Let's hand him over to our new hitting coach and see what happens.
 
rico43 said:
Meant to add that the M's might be ready to give up on Dustin Ackley. Let's hand him over to our new hitting coach and see what happens.
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Ackley turned the corner second half last year. They're not moving him, I don't think, Rico. They think their patience is about to be rewarded. If you want a bit of a project with major upside, they will part with Saunders - who, for our purposes, is also a pretty good CF. Biggest problem with Saunders is you have to choose whether he's injury prone or unlucky. I opt for the latter.
 
GovClintonTyree said:
I certainly agree with your conclusion that the Mariners are the best match, and maybe the most motivated. I would encourage you to stretch your thinking to include young vets as well as prospects - Paxton, Miller, Saunders are all thoughts I've had in addition to Walker.
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If we could find a way to get walker and Paxton, I'm all for it. Then use minor to get rid of BJ.

I'm not a fan of Saunders, but do like Miller. Just didn't include him because I don't see where he would fit long term. If Peterson can play a serviceable defensive third then he would fill that hole long term.

But again, if we can find the right pieces to include with JUp to get both walker and pax, you have to do that. Just can't see the M's moving both young starters.
 
SidSlid92 said:
If we could find a way to get walker and Paxton, I'm all for it. Then use minor to get rid of BJ.

I'm not a fan of Saunders, but do like Miller. Just didn't include him because I don't see where he would fit long term. If Peterson can play a serviceable defensive third then he would fill that hole long term.

But again, if we can find the right pieces to include with JUp to get both walker and pax, you have to do that. Just can't see the M's moving both young starters.
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Right. They won't. We could insist on Paxton unless they include Miller, something like that.

I think Miller could play a deluxe 3B with LH power. He's serviceable at short, and once he got fixed, his bat really came along.

Saunders is a bit of a gamble, but would plug the CF hole after the Braves pull off the amazing Minor-and-BJ-for-something deal. There's some upside there. I think he's capable of an .800 OPS, though .770 is more likely.
 
SidSlid92 said:
I saw the mets with possible interest. Would we entertain dealing him within the division?
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I'd do it. He's a rental.

Another thing about Justin - I think he's a good guy, but he's very clearly an introvert. I don't think he'd like New York and I think he knows that. I think he'd go find his fortune somewhere less demanding.
 
GovClintonTyree said:
I'd do it. He's a rental.

Another thing about Justin - I think he's a good guy, but he's very clearly an introvert. I don't think he'd like New York and I think he knows that. I think he'd go find his fortune somewhere less demanding.
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Upton for Degrom? Where do I sign?
 
Paxton is the one I'd prefer over Walker as well, but I think the M's are hanging on to him for that reason. Iwakuma will be a FA after next year and they view him as their #2 to team with Felix. They're also light on lefty pitching prospects. Walker would be the get here. IMO.

Miller, Saunders, and James Jones could all help immediately.

Patrick Kivlehan could be a good one with Peterson slated as their 1B of the future and Seager entrenched at 3B.

Edwin Diaz has a lot of upside.

Danny Hultzen is interesting as another piece. He's owed $1.7M for 2015 and it's unsure how he's going to bounce back from injury, but he was supposed to be a stud at one time. It'd be a gamble, but possibly one that would pay off.
 
Mets have some pitching to trade but im not sure they'd do a Wheeler/Beltran deal within the division.
 
I loved having j up on this team but if we are going to be as bad as we think we are going to be keeping him is useless even until the asb (much less of a package back). But not sure how we go from having a pitcher be the centerpiece (walker ) to not getting any pitching back.
 
The Ms have a ton of pieces that could fit the Braves well. Guys like Walker, Miller, Saunders, and several others fill in the holes perfectly. I imagine Gattis or JUp (or maybe both) will be heading there for a package that fills at least 2 holes in the current roster.

I still think a blockbuster JUp/Gattis trade for Walker/Miller/Saunders/prospect makes a lot of sense.

Then the Braves sign Tomas and Aoki to fill the OF.

C CB

1B Freeman

2B Peraza/Miller

3B CJ/Miller

SS Simmons

LF Tomas

CF Saunders

RF Aoki

SPs Teheran, Wood, Walker, Minor, Miller
 
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