GM/Winter Meetings Thread

Dodgers have joined the pursuit of Hamels.

That rotation with him, jesus almighty, probably wont happen though.

Per roto.

Bob Nightengale of USA Today reports the Dodgers have joined the pursuit of Phillies starter Cole Hamels.

That pursuit includes the Red Sox, who Nightengale earlier Monday classified as having "had the most serious talks" regarding Hamels. The Dodgers have the prospects and the payroll muscle to get a deal done, and Hamels would certainly strengthen a rotation that already includes Clayton Kershaw, Zack Greinke, Hyun-Jin Ryu and Dan Haren. If the Phillies do decide to deal their ace, they appear to be in a good position to do so.
 
Dalyn said:
Headley, Simmons, Peraza, and Freeman. Damn good infield defense to complement our flyball pitchers.
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I'm not advocating signing Headley (Although, I wouldn't necessarily oppose it.) I just find the cherry picking to try and make it look like Johnson is as good as Headley, and yet still failing, to be flat out hilarious.
 
Im no Headley fan but he's much better than CJ, not really saying much.

Him and Simmons on the right side would be a brick wall, not that i see us signing him.
 
CyYoung31 said:
I'm not advocating signing Headley (Although, I wouldn't necessarily oppose it.) I just find the cherry picking to try and make it look like Johnson is as good as Headley, and yet still failing, to be flat out hilarious.
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Oh, I know. I like Headley. I was just making a joke about sacrificing outfield defense and building fantastic infield defense for this particular rotation.
 
CyYoung31 said:
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CyYoung31 said:
Wow.

Petco and Turner are not comparable at all. Headley would rake here, as well as play MUCH better defense. He's more than a "bit" better than the cement block that is Chris Johnson.

And, seriously, what's up with the shot at Headley? Steroids? You can't be serious.
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I stated that I'm not a number-cruncher as well as that it's only a question for me. The same question has kept Biggio and Bagwell out of the HOF thus far. The point is take the one monster season away and tell me what he is - he's certainly never come remotely close to repeating it. You're the numbers expert.

I pointed out that that season looks questionable IMO. So does Brady Anderson's 1996 season. What's the big deal?

Headley's won the same number of Gold Gloves as Chipper - let's not make him out to be the next coming of Brooks Robinson.

I understand you've got some axe to grind with me for some reason, and that's fine - let's leave it at that and agree to disagree before you call me out for making racist comments again.
 
clvclv said:
I stated that I'm not a number-cruncher as well as that it's only a question for me. The same question has kept Biggio and Bagwell out of the HOF thus far. The point is take the one monster season away and tell me what he is - he's certainly never come remotely close to repeating it. You're the numbers expert.

I pointed out that that season looks questionable IMO. So does Brady Anderson's 1996 season. What's the big deal?

Headley's won the same number of Gold Gloves as Chipper - let's not make him out to be the next coming of Brooks Robinson.

I understand you've got some axe to grind with me for some reason, and that's fine - let's leave it at that and agree to disagree before you call me out for making racist comments again.
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If Headley hit like Chipper he would have more gold gloves.
 
clvclv said:
My only problem with that is that I've never been interested in the Headley Kool-Aid, and I'd certainly rather throw that $48 million at Moncada than try to outbid the Yankees with it...
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It is funny you say that because according to a number of sources I've read the Yankees are the favorites on Moncada. So you may have to outbid them either way.
 
50PoundHead said:
But the overpaying pulls the market up beyond where it would probably sit in the absence of the overpayment.
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Maybe. But sometimes you have to overpay to pry a free agent away. That's just the nature of the beast. If you want a player and want them early in the offseason then an overpay is almost a must. And it just continues to try up the market for everyone else. Rinse and repeat the following year. The Braves are just in a bad spot in regards to the rest of baseball because they have a crappy TV deal where every other team is getting tons of revenue while the Braves are not. I mean the Marlins of all teams just handed out the biggest contract in MLB history.
 
Braves1976 said:
It is funny you say that because according to a number of sources I've read the Yankees are the favorites on Moncada. So you may have to outbid them either way.
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I've seen those reports as well. The difference is that they would have to convince him (and his representatives) that it's in his best interest to hold off on signing and getting his money until after July 2nd if they want to hold onto all the other international guys they've inked thus far in 2014 (8 of BA's Top 30). If he signs before then, they'd lose all 8 since they all signed for more than $300,000. They'd also have to display a level of restraint (holding him out of competition until the middle of the summer) that we haven't seen from them (maybe ever).

Even if they are willing to spend on him AND show that much restraint, I (personally) would prefer to keep $48 million (or whatever Headley eventually signs for) to make that effort for Moncada.
 
clvclv said:
I stated that I'm not a number-cruncher as well as that it's only a question for me. The same question has kept Biggio and Bagwell out of the HOF thus far. The point is take the one monster season away and tell me what he is - he's certainly never come remotely close to repeating it. You're the numbers expert.

I pointed out that that season looks questionable IMO. So does Brady Anderson's 1996 season. What's the big deal?

Headley's won the same number of Gold Gloves as Chipper - let's not make him out to be the next coming of Brooks Robinson.

I understand you've got some axe to grind with me for some reason, and that's fine - let's leave it at that and agree to disagree before you call me out for making racist comments again.
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Yo dawg, don't know if you've noticed but Chris Johnson has one major outlier season as well (2013). Maybe we should look into his performance a little more? The difference is, Headley has had a better career to this point, and has numbers outside of Petco that lean more toward the player he was in 2012 (not that he'll necessarily ever reach those numbers again). Besides, outlier seasons happen all the time. You can't just immediately start thinking steroids any time a player has a career year.

And compared to Chris Johnson, Headley is Brooks Robinson.
 
thewupk said:
Maybe. But sometimes you have to overpay to pry a free agent away. That's just the nature of the beast. If you want a player and want them early in the offseason then an overpay is almost a must. And it just continues to try up the market for everyone else. Rinse and repeat the following year. The Braves are just in a bad spot in regards to the rest of baseball because they have a crappy TV deal where every other team is getting tons of revenue while the Braves are not. I mean the Marlins of all teams just handed out the biggest contract in MLB history.
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I think we're saying the same thing. Bad contracts drive up the costs for everybody, both in the long and short terms.
 
I am all for bringing Francisco back to platoon with Johnson. We could use the power bat and if Johnson faces mostly lefties then he should put up some good looking stats that will make it easier to trade him.
 
I rather dump CJ and sign Headley for four years at 60-65 million (Sullivan mentioned that 65 million might work). But I know that is unlikely to happen so just saying.
 
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