How Do We Compete in 2017?

nsacpi said:
Sobotka.
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Not familiar with this prospect; had to google him:

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Julio3000 said:
I just want to throw some names on the board to underscore just how good the Braves were at developing hitters during the years that we were getting credit for developing pitching.

From '91 to '96, the minors produced:

Gant

Justice

Blauser

Lemke

Brian Hunter

Vinny Castilla

Klesko

Javy Lopez

L.W. Jones

Jermaine Dye

Andruw Jones

with Honorable Mention going to guys like Eddie Perez, Tony Graffanino, Mike Mordecai, Mel Nieves (didn't stick, but netted us McGriff), Tony Tarasco, Keith Mitchell, et. al, who had varying degrees of success in the majors.

Anyway, here's hoping we draft another outfielder this year.
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****, you really had to put out the Meta signal?
 
Well if we dont get Moncada it would be nice to spend money on something other than old journeyment relief pitchers, back up catchers and weak hitting out fielders.

(watch us sign aioki, and like a former giant relief pitcher. )
 
jpx7 said:
Is there any place besides this board that is reporting such a signing is even remotely likely?
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Baseball America has cited us as a potential suitor.

But the Braves are nothing more than a dark horse. But it's not crazy to imagine it. Oakland got Cespedes when everyone thought for sure he was going to one of the big dogs.
 
jpx7 said:
Is there any place besides this board that is reporting such a signing is even remotely likely?
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Many outlets have reported we are scouting him heavily

http://www.baseballamerica.com/international/red-sox-braves-show-strong-presence-yoan-moncada-showcase/

http://www.chatsports.com/atlanta-braves/a/Braves-Interested-in-the-Next-Cuban-Thing-Yoan-Moncada-2-10714728

Seems like a waste of time and effort if we had no interest in at least giving the bidding process a try. Does that mean we will get him? Obviously not... but we are very clearly interested.

You don't send Blakeley and Clark if you aren't at least a bit serious.
 
chop2chip said:
Baseball America has cited us as a potential suitor.

But the Braves are nothing more than a dark horse. But it's not crazy to imagine it. Oakland got Cespedes when everyone thought for sure he was going to one of the big dogs.
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Cespedes decided between the Marlins and A's. Also in the ring were the Orioles, White Sox, Cubs, and Tigers. Bigger wallets than the A's, for sure, but not the Yanks, Red Sox, or Dodgers. The A's signed for Cespedes for an $8M/Y commitment over 4 years. Whoever signs Moncada will have to write a a couple of HUGE checks right off the bat.

It's not crazy to imagine it, but it's got to be considered a Hail Mary at best. If Moncada gets $30-50M in bonus money, as he is expected to, the post-tax cost is going to run close to double that amount.

The Yanks, Sox, and Dodgers have money, commitment from ownership, and the ability to eat an expensive mistake (insert Laird/Harang joke here). The Braves, IMO, do not. It's certainly a possibility, but it seems an extremely remote one.
 
zbhargrove said:
Except for the publications that have reported it... good troll job, though...
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Hi hun. The Braves are scouting him....like every other effin team in the majors. That doesn't mean he has any interest in signing with the Braves.
 
I have reason to believe that John Hart is going to assume that Moncada is the right player at the wrong time and will therefore not be part of the plan to field a palatable team in 2015 while focusing mainly on 2017 and also trying to be the girl at the dance that isn't necessarily the best looking but is the one that is most fun to dance with while keeping in mind that the 2014 Braves were not the 1927 Yankees.
 
Julio3000 said:
It's not crazy to imagine it, but it's got to be considered a Hail Mary at best. If Moncada gets $30-50M in bonus money, as he is expected to, the post-tax cost is going to run close to double that amount.
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I agree that Moncada is a Hail Mary.
 
If you think he's a stud - then you do it.

$100M over 6 years is cheaper than any established MLB stud on FA market
 
gilesfan said:
Hi hun. The Braves are scouting him....like every other effin team in the majors. That doesn't mean he has any interest in signing with the Braves.
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You're right... Clark went to his showcase for no reason... the showcase with scouts from only 5 other teams present... but sure, that's "every other effin team in the majors" I guess. Obviously every team scouts pretty much every player. It's obvious from the actions that the Braves have more than just a cursory interest... he may have interest in signing with the Braves, he might not... you have no clue. The fact is, you said only the one poster was saying the Braves had interest (and no actual sources) and you were proven wrong but you don't want to actually address that issue.
 
nsacpi said:
I have reason to believe that John Hart is going to assume that Moncada is the right player at the wrong time and will therefore not be part of the plan to field a palatable team in 2015 while focusing mainly on 2017 and also trying to be the girl at the dance that isn't necessarily the best looking but is the one that is most fun to dance with while keeping in mind that the 2014 Braves were not the 1927 Yankees.
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I don't know... most seem to think Moncada needs one or two years in the minors to properly prepare him... so it could actually be idea for the 2017 date.
 
zbhargrove said:
You're right... Clark went to his showcase for no reason... the showcase with scouts from only 5 other teams present... but sure, that's "every other effin team in the majors" I guess. Obviously every team scouts pretty much every player. It's obvious from the actions that the Braves have more than just a cursory interest... he may have interest in signing with the Braves, he might not... you have no clue. The fact is, you said only the one poster was saying the Braves had interest (and no actual sources) and you were proven wrong but you don't want to actually address that issue.
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No, I said only 1 poster is claiming this is remotely possible. Follow along, suzie.
 
zbhargrove said:
You're right... Clark went to his showcase for no reason... the showcase with scouts from only 5 other teams present... but sure, that's "every other effin team in the majors" I guess. Obviously every team scouts pretty much every player. It's obvious from the actions that the Braves have more than just a cursory interest... he may have interest in signing with the Braves, he might not... you have no clue. The fact is, you said only the one poster was saying the Braves had interest (and no actual sources) and you were proven wrong but you don't want to actually address that issue.
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That BA article mentioned 8 teams with a heavy presence at the showcase, and 80-100 scouts overall.

The Braves are clearly interested, considering that they sent Clark and Blakeley. There is a non-zero chance that we'll get him. I just think it's an extremely remote possibility.

I'm just trying to manage expectations here ;-)
 
I think I got it, they will just make the outfield wall 300 on both corners and 350 to center so we can score runs in the new stadium.
 
We will need almost everyone on offense to either have a career year or play to their expectations. And for our pitching to do the same and stay healthy. Could it happen? Yes. Has this happened with other teams? Yes. Will it happen? Not likely.
 
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