2015 Farm System Rankings (Law 6th/Fangraphs 6th)

Dalyn said:
But we apparently didn't get Jenkins for him. Just a part of Jenkins. You'd really trade Walden for a one-eyed Jenkins with a clubfoot and a shriveled left arm?
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Yup. He's not special or super valuable or irreplaceable.
 
Dalyn said:
If what we got was only a percentage of Jenkins? Absolutely.
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lol, so MORE speculation that we didn't get "full value" for someone despite zero evidence of it. Okay.
What would you expect for Walden? A RP who's had (non-serious) arm problems here and there?
 
yeezus said:
lol, so MORE speculation that we didn't get "full value" for someone despite zero evidence of it. Okay.
What would you expect for Walden? A RP who's had (non-serious) arm problems here and there?
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Read my post. I'm not the one speculating. WTF!? I said we got Walden for Jenkins and thethe corrected me.
 
Dalyn said:
And if you think there's zero evidence that we didn't get full value for Upton, you haven't been paying attention.
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I'm still not in agreement with you on that one. You posted a bunch of players that the Padres traded. That doesn't mean that (a) the Braves wanted any of those players or (b) those players were ever offered in a package for Upton.

In the end, even if the Braves didn't get top dollar for Upton the difference between the future value of the prospect package was probably negligible.
 
thethe said:
I'm still not in agreement with you on that one. You posted a bunch of players that the Padres traded. That doesn't mean that (a) the Braves wanted any of those players or (b) those players were ever offered in a package for Upton.

In the end, even if the Braves didn't get top dollar for Upton the difference between the future value of the prospect package was probably negligible.
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Without any outside information, do you think a team with a need would offer more or less for an answer to that need AFTER (in comparison with BEFORE) already finding an answer?
 
Dalyn said:
And if you think there's zero evidence that we didn't get full value for Upton, you haven't been paying attention.
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lol okay.

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Dalyn said:
Without any outside information, do you think a team with a need would offer more or less for an answer to that need AFTER (in comparison with BEFORE) already finding an answer?
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In a vacuum of those circumstances the answer is obviously before but we do not know how long the Kemp or Myers deal was in the oven. There could have been players that were already off limits to the Braves because these other teams wanted them.
 
thethe said:
In a vacuum of those circumstances the answer is obviously before but we do not know how long the Kemp or Myers deal was in the oven. There could have been players that were already off limits to the Braves because these other teams wanted them.
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The Braves waited until all the teams they were talking to filled their outfield need before making a deal. They held out (which means they turned down counteroffers) for an epic deal until everyone walked away and you're crazy if you think the Padres didn't take advantage of that.

You guys might think there is "zero evidence," but I could get a conviction.
 
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