Russell Rant

yeezus said:
Ok, but I think anything can have an effect on someone's mind. Watching Disney movies about princesses can have a harmful effect on someone's attitudes or thoughts towards relationships. The mind is crazy that way; it's an extremely powerful thing.
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Watching people **** on camera is a little different, that you must concede.
 
Hawk said:
Is your girlfriend cool with it? Does she watch with you, or partake on her own?
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She doesn't care and understands it's pretty common. And again, I probably spend 20 minutes total a month watching porn. It just never mattered, I suppose. We've never actually watched together, though we talked about it. She doesn't, as far as I know. She tells me she doesn't.

Hawk said:
Watching people **** on camera is a little different, that you must concede.
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Of course, it's very different. I guess my point was just anything can negative effects on people. Violence on TV, lots of things.
 
yeezus said:
Of course, it's very different. I guess my point was just anything can negative effects on people. Violence on TV, lots of things.
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I think that's obvious.

What's more intriguing to me is determining the things that should be regulated for their adverse effects and to what degree. Violent TV and video games, for example. And shouldn't that be a parental prerogative, anyways?

When would you be okay with a child beginning to watch porn? The law says 18 -- but we can have sex much earlier (in some states).

How can we possibly predict when a kid becomes sexually aware? Or an adult, even?

Again, just food for thought.
 
Hawk said:
Without getting into much detail, I've been practicing sexual taoism for the past 6 months. The effects have been nothing short of profound, but I'd lying if I said that certain aspects hadn't been agonizing.

I challenge anybody who doesn't think that porn is addictive to try take a break from it -- and masturbation -- for one month.
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Does this mean you haven't been having sex, by the way?
 
Hawk said:
I think that's obvious.

What's more intriguing to me is determining the things that should be regulated for their adverse effects and to what degree. Violent TV and video games, for example. And shouldn't that be a parental prerogative, anyways?

When would you be okay with a child beginning to watch porn? The law says 18 -- but we can have sex much earlier (in some states).

How can we possibly predict when a kid becomes sexually aware? Or an adult, even?

Again, just food for thought.
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Of course it should be a parental prerogative; so should internet usage and websites being visited. I don't see how porn is drastically different than a number of other things out there.
I really don't know when I'd be ok with a child beginning too watch porn. Not until at least teens, probably.
We can't predict that stuff.
 
yeezus said:
She doesn't care and understands it's pretty common. And again, I probably spend 20 minutes total a month watching porn. It just never mattered, I suppose. We've never actually watched together, though we talked about it. She doesn't, as far as I know. She tells me she doesn't.
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I wish Southern girls were as understanding, or, at least, just not so ****ing crazy.
 
Hawk said:
I wish Southern girls were as understanding, or, at least, just not so ****ing crazy.
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ooooh she's ****ing crazy, just in a different way.
no doubt, the cliche is true: the **** she thinks sometimes boggles my mind and I can't comprehend it.
 
yeezus said:
Of course it should be a parental prerogative; so should internet usage and websites being visited. I don't see how porn is drastically different than a number of other things out there.
I really don't know when I'd be ok with a child beginning too watch porn. Not until at least teens, probably.
We can't predict that stuff.
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I don't think porn unto itself is necessarily more dangerous or different than a lot of things out there, but I am reserved when it comes to discussing how it can negatively effect youth, especially.
 
Hawk said:
(The point was that NoFap on Reddit is clearly not 'old people'.)

Pornography is a little different, I think. Thanks to the Internet it's readily available to a wide ranging demographic than can consume it with no real outward effect (unlike food, drugs, alcohol, and other things which are typically abused). You just can't accurately gauge the effects it has on an individual biologically or mentally. I don't believe pornography is inherently bad, but I do think people should be better informed of the risks.
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I do. By it's very nature it objectifies another human being as a piece of meat in order to stimulate. In addition after the initial fix, it often leads to wanting you know something a bit more, and it devolves from there.
 
BedellBrave said:
I do. By it's very nature it objectifies another human being as a piece of meat in order to stimulate. In addition after the initial fix, it often leads to wanting you know something a bit more, and it devolves from there.
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Sorry bedell, don't believe in slippery slope arguments. They have no backing other than circumstantial evidence.

Porn is arguably one of the smallest medium that objectifies a person. We constantly see objectification in advertisements on a daily basis. Buy this cologne, get ot bang the chicks Brad Pitt bangs, buy this bra get to be Adriana Lima.

Lemme guess though, you think that kids shouldn't learn about sex, should be ashamed of their bodies, and so on so forth. I mean that worked so well for the puritans. None of them had shotgun weddinsgs. Part of being human is to be objectified as primarily we're all looking to mate, it's our primal goal. Man with the genes most attractive for child bearing bangs the woman who's got the qualities of bearing said child. Not objectifying women/men is a newer idea and it's gonna take a long freaking time to overcome.
 
zitothebrave said:
Sorry bedell, don't believe in slippery slope arguments. They have no backing other than circumstantial evidence.

Porn is arguably one of the smallest medium that objectifies a person. We constantly see objectification in advertisements on a daily basis. Buy this cologne, get ot bang the chicks Brad Pitt bangs, buy this bra get to be Adriana Lima.

Lemme guess though, you think that kids shouldn't learn about sex, should be ashamed of their bodies, and so on so forth. I mean that worked so well for the puritans. None of them had shotgun weddinsgs. Part of being human is to be objectified as primarily we're all looking to mate, it's our primal goal. Man with the genes most attractive for child bearing bangs the woman who's got the qualities of bearing said child. Not objectifying women/men is a newer idea and it's gonna take a long freaking time to overcome.
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Listen to what you are saying. Just listen. Sad really. The world you want isn't worth inhabiting.
 
BedellBrave said:
And he comes to defend it... Lovely that.
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It's not so much defending it, as promoting education. When you tell someone they can't do something, they'll want to do it. It's in our human nature. We're curiosu folk. And if something is taboo, it can add a certainl level of arousal (for lack of a better word) that makes you want to experience it more and more and heightens your satisfaction when you do it.

Porn certainly is bad, has many bad aspects of it, as do many of the subversive ways that humans are sold. For a different example, pick on soldiers, they're told they're heroes, put on platforms, they're part of a team, not individuals, so on so forth. These things allow them to kill with reckless abandon. It shields them from the horrors they're committing because of how things are sold to them. If you want to address the issues of objectifying women, you can do that, but just pointing to porn and saying, there it is. Is not a great way of doing it.
 
BedellBrave said:
And he comes to defend it... Lovely that.
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I'll defend it too. We don't know the people you deal with in your marriage counseling. For people like me, zeets or yeezus it isn't something that overtakes our view on reality with relationships and socializing with women. It's fantasy for 2 minutes.
 
Heywood said:
I'll defend it too. We don't know the people you deal with in your marriage counseling. For people like me, zeets or yeezus it isn't something that overtakes our view on reality with relationships and socializing with women. It's fantasy for 2 minutes.
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You defend objectifying a woman? Reducing her to merely something to get off on.

And you are what, in your twenties? You've got no idea of the scars that can come. The images you won't be able to get out of your mind. They are there now and your wife to be will never make the grade.

And when you are jacking off looking at a video on your phone, while your wive withdraws further and further into her hurt, remember this warning.
 
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