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NFC East winners going back:

14-Cowboys

13-Eagles

12-Redskins

11-Giants

10-Eagles/Giants

09-Cowboys/Eagles

08-Giants

07-Cowboys

06-Eagles

05-Giants

04-Eagles

Yet every year the team that won it the previous year thinks they are going to win it the next year.
 
gilesfan said:
NFC East winners going back:

14-Cowboys
13-Eagles
12-Redskins
11-Giants
10-Eagles/Giants
09-Cowboys/Eagles
08-Giants
07-Cowboys
06-Eagles
05-Giants
04-Eagles

Yet every year the team that won it the previous year thinks they are going to win it the next year.
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And that trend could end at any time, it means little.
 
Cowboys d-line could be really good next year.
Mincey is alright.
Crawford is improving all the time.
Lawrence started showing real flashes after coming back.
And Kraken is Kraken: dominant.

Hitchens played well last year. I expect McClain back. And if they can manage to get ONE healthy year out of Lee, that's a good LB group. Not holding my breath, but it would be really nice. Losing Durant really hurts depth there.

Kraken fixes by far the biggest need in an elite way, and really opens up draft options.

But when you have the best QB, WR, OL, and pass rusher in the division, I'll have to call you a favorite.
 
Yeezus. Don't you feel dirty being excited for Hardy?

He's a disgusting human being and I hope he doesn't play a down this year.
 
chop2chip said:
Yeezus. Don't you feel dirty being excited for Hardy?

He's a disgusting human being and I hope he doesn't play a down this year.
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You know, I had forgotten they brought back the guy that killed his friend and teammate drunk driving too. They are the new 49rs, Raiders, or Bengals.
 
chop2chip said:
Yeezus. Don't you feel dirty being excited for Hardy?

He's a disgusting human being and I hope he doesn't play a down this year.
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My personal feelings mean nothing to what decisions a team makes. I'll agree with whatever suspension the league gives him. I also don't know exactly what happened, and the transcript I read didn't tell me much about it.

I also don't see why he shouldn't be given a second chance. Everyone should get one. There are a lot of ****ty people in the NFL, some get caught, others don't. The team signed him. Therefore I hope he produces on the field. There's nothing else I can do. If I running a team, I likely would not have signed him.
 
yeezus said:
My personal feelings mean nothing to what decisions a team makes. I'll agree with whatever suspension the league gives him. I also don't know exactly what happened, and the transcript I read didn't tell me much about it.

I also don't see why he shouldn't be given a second chance. Everyone should get one. There are a lot of ****ty people in the NFL, some get caught, others don't. The team signed him. Therefore I hope he produces on the field. There's nothing else I can do. If I running a team, I likely would not have signed him.
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Well it's really telling that the only team that was competing with Dallas was Tampa and they got scared off after they hired a couple of PI's.

I'm okay with him getting a second chance, but I don't believe he's done anything to earn it yet.
 
chop2chip said:
Well it's really telling that the only team that was competing with Dallas was Tampa and they got scared off after they hired a couple of PI's.

I'm okay with him getting a second chance, but I don't believe he's done anything to earn it yet.
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I don't think Tampa was "scared off"; they knew damn well what supposedly happened. They backed off when it was clear he was signing in Dallas, and made their statement to save face. JMO.

I really don't know. Teammates and other players love the guy. Does that mean anything? Not really. But, there's more doubt in the case than some have lead on. He definitely did something wrong, but to what extent, I don't know. He will be suspended and serve his punishment, this time without pay. After that, I just hope he helps them win.
 
Let me help you, he beat the **** out of her and then threw her on a bunch of loaded weapons and told her he would kill her. He was then found guilty in a judge trial, which he somehow then was able to switch it to a jury trial. In the meantime, he paid her off and she dropped the charges.

"Domestic violence. Do you hear that bull(expletive)? He’s beating her ass in there. Some girl’s getting her ass beat upstairs, and I heard it. And I seen it. He is beating her ass right the (expletive) now. So get here now. I was in the apartment, he’s beating her ass."

"Teammates love the guy"

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...mate-greg-hardy-can-be-unmanageable-at-times/

“But then there are other times when he’s just unmanageable. And that’s why I think things have gotten in trouble with his personal life. He’s going have to go a long ways to earn the trust of any organization, whether it be Dallas or any other franchise across the league."
 
chop2chip said:
Well it's really telling that the only team that was competing with Dallas was Tampa and they got scared off after they hired a couple of PI's.

I'm okay with him getting a second chance, but I don't believe he's done anything to earn it yet.
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Best case there were 2 teams after him, worst case there was 1. But, murder doesn't slow down Jerruh, why would a little domestic violence?
 
The signing is also beneficial in that it's of zero risk to the team. He's guaranteed very little money, with most of it depending on if he's on the 53-man each week. If he stays out of trouble he is going to get paid. If it isn't the Cowboys, it will be someone after this season, no doubt.
 
yeezus said:
The signing is also beneficial in that it's of zero risk to the team. He's guaranteed very little money, with most of it depending on if he's on the 53-man each week. If he stays out of trouble he is going to get paid. If it isn't the Cowboys, it will be someone after this season, no doubt.
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If something is too good to be true then it probably is.
 
gilesfan said:
I think they probably draft a running back. Dunbar sucks, McFadden is done,a nd Randle can't stop getting arrested. They should find a good one in the 2nd/3rd round. Signing AP would be dumb, though he fits in with the bad boy culture of the team.

Dez is obviously good. Romo and Witten are probably on the downside of their careers. What WRs other than Dez are playmakers? Beasley and Williams graded out poorly last year. Hardy, if he plays, will help the defense, but they also need drastic improvements on that side.

Eagles are obviously going to be good again.

The Giants will be a real threat next year. They have a sick WR tandem in Randle/OBJ. Andre Williams likely makes a big jump this year as well. I think they probably attack OL in the draft and that is one spot that have to be concerned about.
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Terrance Williams is a nice number two for Romo. I don't care what he "graded out as", he still caught 8 TDs even with Bryant catching 16. Witten is still a top 10 TE in the league until his production proves otherwise.

How are the Eagles obviously going to be good with a China doll for a QB, who even when he's played hasn't been that impressive? You were just preaching all offseason how RBs past their 26 BDAY are basically worthless, and they just signed two of them. They lost their WR to free agency. Could the Eagles be good? Sure. A lot has to go right for therm, starting with a healthy QB.

Giants are always a wild card cause you don't know good/bad Eli will play. He finished last year strong, but he's too inconsistent to depend on. Running back is still a concern. Williams doesn't seem like a feature back and Jennings can't stay healthy. Giants could be good. They could also lose 10 games
 
thethe said:
If the 49ers didn't have everyone and their mother injured last year they would have been there in January. So if you want to say injuries are hte great equalizer then I agree with you.
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Kap sucked. That's why you lost. Defense was still good last yr.
 
Carp said:
Terrance Williams is a nice number two for Romo. I don't care what he "graded out as", he still caught 8 TDs even with Bryant catching 16. Witten is still a top 10 TE in the league until his production proves otherwise.

How are the Eagles obviously going to be good with a China doll for a QB, who even when he's played hasn't been that impressive? You were just preaching all offseason how RBs past their 26 BDAY are basically worthless, and they just signed two of them. They lost their WR to free agency. Could the Eagles be good? Sure. A lot has to go right for therm, starting with a healthy QB.

Giants are always a wild card cause you don't know good/bad Eli will play. He finished last year strong, but he's too inconsistent to depend on. Running back is still a concern. Williams doesn't seem like a feature back and Jennings can't stay healthy. Giants could be good. They could also lose 10 games
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The eagles playes well with Sanchize at QB, Mccoy playing terrible, and a **** load of offensive line injuries last year. Cant see them running the ball worse. They will find a decent WR/ Matthews will step up. They drasticlaly improved the defense
 
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