Kimbrel/Melvin Trade Thread

[50PoundHead]

So what are our draft slots now?

#14, #28 (comp for Santana), #41 (acquired in Kimbrel trade), #54, and #89 in first three rounds.

 

[Heyward]

They will manage to screw up with whatever free agent they sign.

Will you shut it, holy crap you're annoying.

 

[Heyward]

#14, #28 (comp for Santana), #41 (acquired in Kimbrel trade), #54, and #89 in first three rounds.

They can re-stock the system quite a bit with those picks.

 

[thethe]

They should consider trading him if someone makes the right offensive prospect or talent.

If Wood has another good year then you could legitimately ask for a top 10 prospect for him plus another top 50-100 guy and some fillers. I think its worth thinking about considering how many arms are down on the farm.

 

[Tapate50]

How about some scouting reports on the new Braves farmhands for folks unable to look them up ?

 

[gilesfan]

You were on the Nats butts after the Turner trade who has concerns.

He is right, you'd be giving them so much credit if Rizzo pulled this off.

Yes, they traded - steven souza for Trae turner. Is that a bad trade?

 

[thethe]

One of my favorite Braves. Sad to see Kimbrel go. Hope he continues on his path to one of the best closers of all time.

I hope he stays healthy because the kid is special.

 

[Tapate50]

#14, #28 (comp for Santana), #41 (acquired in Kimbrel trade), #54, and #89 in first three rounds.

Damn!!

 

[Oklahomabrave]

Who's the last marquee free agent the Braves signed that performed like he should have?

Was Billy Wagner a FA?

 

[NinersSBChamps]

They can re-stock the system quite a bit with those picks.

Or trade them for major league talent.

 

[thethe]

How about some scouting reports on the new Braves farmhands for folks unable to look them up ?

Ask and ye shall receive:

2. Matt Wisler, RHP
Current Level/Age: AAA/22.3, 6’3/195, R/R
Drafted: 233rd overall (7th round) in 2011 out of Ohio HS by SD for $500,000 bonus, Agency: Sosnick Sports
Fastball: 55/60, Slider: 55/60, Curveball: 45/45+, Changeup: 45/50+, Command: 45/50

Scouting Report: While Wisler isn’t the tall tale type character that Renfroe is, he has plenty of it factor and makeup to his credit as well. To pitch at the Padres pre-draft workout in San Diego, Wisler flew to the west coast from Ohio and pitched the day after he threw in a playoff game, hitting 91 mph at PETCO Park. Teams were scared by his signability, but the Padres inked him for $500,000 just before the season ended. He threw a few innings, but then came to camp in 2013 looking like a completely different pitcher.

Wisler works 91-94, touching 95 mph with sink and commands the pitch to both sides of the plate. His two-plane slider is plus, his changeup is above average at times and he also works in a fringy curveball. Scouts rave about his makeup and strike throwing abilities, though his command isn’t quite big league ready, as he ran into trouble in the hitter-friendly PCL leaving the ball up the zone. Some scouts think his build is too slight and that he won’t be able to hold up for 200 innings, with a couple suggested he may end up as a late-inning reliever. The consensus is that he should be able to handle 180 innings as a third or fourth starter.

He hasn’t really hit the bumps in development yet that most young pitchers go through, but he did sulk for a few weeks after not breaking with the big league team in 2014, and carried a bad last spring training appearance with him to Triple-A for a few starts. The Padres think his mental maturity progressed after having to deal with the PCL for a season, and he has a chance to grab an MLB rotation spot to open 2015.

Summation: It was a toss-up between Renfroe and Wisler for the #1 spot, with a 50-50 split among scouts I talked to. The consensus is that Renfroe is higher upside and riskier, with one source saying he prefers Wisler by a good margin for that reason. The recently-traded Jesse Hahn was the team’s fourth starter, so now there are two open spots to claim between Despaigne, Erlin, Luebke, Wisler and Kelly, with Luebke and Kelly getting their first action after Tommy John surgery. This could give Wisler a real chance to break with the club, but he’s expected to head back to Triple-A at least initially.

FV/Role/Risk: 55, #3/4 starter, Low (2 on 1-5 scale)
Projected Path: 2015: AAA/MLB, 2016: MLB

 

[50PoundHead]

They can re-stock the system quite a bit with those picks.

Plus the international signing bonus pool money they acquired in the La Stella deal. Should be an interesting pre-draft/pre-international signing period for the team.

 

[Heyward]

Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS
braves accomplished 3 main goals this winter/spring: rebuilt farm system, freed money, ridded themselves of melvin upton.

 

[NinersSBChamps]

Was Billy Wagner a FA?

I believe so.

 

[Carp]

I don't know what to think of this right now. Kimbrell was my favorite Brave. BJ was my least favorite. I know we clear alot of money, but for what exactly?

Need some time to digest this one.

 

[Heyward]

Yes, they traded - steven souza for Trae turner. Is that a bad trade?

It aint a good one.

 

[keithlaw]

Oh man imagine if we flip Quentin to an AL club and get them to take on part of his salary

 

[sturg33]

As much as I love this trade... makes the Markakis deal THAT much more stupid...

 

[Heyward]

If Wood has another good year then you could legitimately ask for a top 10 prospect for him plus another top 50-100 guy and some fillers. I think its worth thinking about considering how many arms are down on the farm.

I love Alex but you gotta consider it depending what offers would be out there.

Braves have a buttload of young arms.

 

[thethe]

#14, #28 (comp for Santana), #41 (acquired in Kimbrel trade), #54, and #89 in first three rounds.

Isn't it great to have Roy Clark back? Things are going to get serious soon for the Braves.