Kimbrel/Melvin Trade Thread

Here is the net salary savings year by year of this trade:

2015 8.55M
2016 18.45M
2017 28.45M (assuming we decline Maybin's option)

The 2017 number is the one that leaves an impression on me. It had struck me before that it would be hard to gear up for 2017 if we had to pay Melvin the 16.45M is owed for that year. We have found a way to move that, which means that 2017 is much more in play now as a realistic goal for having a contending team.

The other thing that becomes pretty clear is that most of the available payroll the next two off-seasons will be spent on position players. We have needs especially in the outfield (and a lack of alternatives in the farm system, though perhaps someone like Peraza could be moved to center).
 
Curious to see how our rotation shakes out over the next year plus. Teheran, Wood, Miller, Minor will all surely get x amount of innings, with Wisler, Folty, Man-Ban, Jenkins, all really close.
 
I think Wisler and Jenkins are the primary rotation prospects in the near future, followed by Fried and Sims a year or two behind. I think Banuelos' talent level is below that, and I think the odds Folty ends up in the pen just went up a little more, although I still definitely want to give him a chance to be a starter first.

And I think the talk of trading Wood is nonsense. There are a lot of people who consider him to have the highest ceiling among any of our guys. He's a huge part of this team's future.
 
Oklahomabrave said:
Curious to see how our rotation shakes out over the next year plus. Teheran, Wood, Miller, Minor will all surely get x amount of innings, with Wisler, Folty, Man-Ban, Jenkins, all really close.
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Minor is gone as soon as he regains some of his value.
 
smootness said:
I think Wisler and Jenkins are the primary rotation prospects in the near future, followed by Fried and Sims a year or two behind. I think Banuelos' talent level is below that, and I think the odds Folty ends up in the pen just went up a little more, although I still definitely want to give him a chance to be a starter first.

And I think the talk of trading Wood is nonsense. There are a lot of people who consider him to have the highest ceiling among any of our guys. He's a huge part of this team's future.
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yeah agree on the folty thing
 
Oklahomabrave said:
Curious to see how our rotation shakes out over the next year plus. Teheran, Wood, Miller, Minor will all surely get x amount of innings, with Wisler, Folty, Man-Ban, Jenkins, all really close.
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Don't forget Hursh, Sims and even Martin. Injuries will play a role in sorting things out, but my guess is we will see some pitchers traded for hitters the next two off-seasons. I would also guess Folty, Man-Ban and Jenkins end up as relievers in the majors.
 
smootness said:
I think Wisler and Jenkins are the primary rotation prospects in the near future, followed by Fried and Sims a year or two behind. I think Banuelos' talent level is below that, and I think the odds Folty ends up in the pen just went up a little more, although I still definitely want to give him a chance to be a starter first.

And I think the talk of trading Wood is nonsense. There are a lot of people who consider him to have the highest ceiling among any of our guys. He's a huge part of this team's future.
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The Braves are absolutely loaded with SP prospects, i can see the reasoning.
 
Oklahomabrave said:
Curious to see how our rotation shakes out over the next year plus. Teheran, Wood, Miller, Minor will all surely get x amount of innings, with Wisler, Folty, Man-Ban, Jenkins, all really close.
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Minor and Cahill are probably gone if Cahill rebounds, and Minor proves he's healthy.

I'd all but guarantee that.

Some will be dealt for hitters in the next few winters.

Some will get hurt, some end up was RP's.
 
zitothebrave said:
Whoever is healthy will pitch, some will be traded
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Wel certainly that is true. I suppose, more specifically, I am curious to see what each individuals performance looks like and what additional trades are made as a result. Im fairly sure that Minor will be gone. Either he can come back healthy and nets us some talent or might just be let go. If Wisler and Folty look like rotation opens will we trade them or Miller/Wood. I may be way off, but I feel like Teheran is the only one relatively safe.

I know none of these questions can be reasonably answered at the moment, but for me it adds and interesting side narrative to the season. If even a moderate amount of our current crop of pitching stays healthy and pitches well, we could be looking at a very appealing surplus of valuable cheap pitching.
 
Hawk said:
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#Braves Hart said Johnson, Grilli could close games, possibly Jaime eventually, etc.

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I like how the Braves try to hide the incompetence of Fredi's coaching by getting rid of all of the good players. If Simmons could hit a lick, he would be gone too. SMH
 
Oklahomabrave said:
Wel certainly that is true. I suppose, more specifically, I am curious to see what each individuals performance looks like and what additional trades are made as a result. Im fairly sure that Minor will be gone. Either he can come back healthy and nets us some talent or might just be let go. If Wisler and Folty look like rotation opens will we trade them or Miller/Wood. I may be way off, but I feel like Teheran is the only one relatively safe.

I know none of these questions can be reasonably answered at the moment, but for me it adds and interesting side narrative to the season. If even a moderate amount of our current crop of pitching stays healthy and pitches well, we could be looking at a very appealing surplus of valuable cheap pitching.
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The downside to that scenario is that we are in an era where good hitting is at a premium relative to good pitching. I'd rather have a farm system like the Cubs that is top-heavy in position players.
 
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