Chris Johnson - NL Batting Leader

I don't think anyone will. Although, I will say, people act like this guy was like a .240 career hitter coming into this season and this is just sucha big damn shock. (although yea, no one, not even him, pictured THIS but...) And I guess because he wasn't the center piece in the Upton trade, people sorta overlooked him. But the guy had a good (not ok but good) hitting record for his career already. Also a reason for him sneaking up like this is I guess because he doesn't really do anything that stands out like he doesn't walk a lot, he doesn't hit homers, he doesn't steal bases.... He basically is just a solid singles and doubles hitter with a solid glove.

If he comes back next year and just hits what he has for his career with the same glove, people should steal be ecstatic about the guy.

um no
 
Yeah, he's adequate out there IMO. He can make the play coming in on the ball or going to his right decently. Going to his left is tough for him. I certainly don't think he is the horrible defender that he is characterized on this board.
 
Yeah, he's adequate out there IMO. He can make the play coming in on the ball or going to his right decently. Going to his left is tough for him. I certainly don't think he is the horrible defender that he is characterized on this board.

Well he has horrible range which is the biggest concern. And it really is that bad.
 
Well he has horrible range which is the biggest concern. And it really is that bad.

Yes, the range to his left is bad. But he has a strong accurate arm and is not bad with the glove. Range is one ingredient of defense (albeit probably the most important). I just don't think he is as bad as described. I would never call him good or above average though.
 
With Andrelton at short, the issues with Johnson's range are not as bad as they would be with another shortstop.
 
With Andrelton at short, the issues with Johnson's range are not as bad as they would be with another shortstop.

I agree. If Johnson was a better defensive player he would be extremely valuable. However, I believe that he is a better offensive player than given credit for. Obviously he isn't this good but I do believe that he has entered his prime and will continue to be an above average offensive player. I just don't see the rush in getting rid of him. Obviously, if some team is willing to give up value equivalent to this year of production then make the move. I just don't believe that is going to happen.
 
Yes, the range to his left is bad. But he has a strong accurate arm and is not bad with the glove. Range is one ingredient of defense (albeit probably the most important). I just don't think he is as bad as described. I would never call him good or above average though.

Range is the most important factor at this level. The minors usually weed out the players that can't field at all in infield. He's a bad fielder. And that's a pretty much universal opinion except for Braves homers.
 
Johnson is not a solid glove. Amazing how hitting well makes someones love look better.

His offensive numbers for his career arent terroble but look at what parks hes played in.

If someone wants to give up any sort of value (productive player or B prospect) you gotta jump on it. Hes gonna come crashing down.
 
I agree. If Johnson was a better defensive player he would be extremely valuable. However, I believe that he is a better offensive player than given credit for. Obviously he isn't this good but I do believe that he has entered his prime and will continue to be an above average offensive player. I just don't see the rush in getting rid of him. Obviously, if some team is willing to give up value equivalent to this year of production then make the move. I just don't believe that is going to happen.

I don't think anyone is really rushing to get rid of him. They are a) trying to tempter peoples expectations of him in the future and b) are ok keeping him at third for at least one more year and maybe through 2015 while he's a fairly inexpensive player. Johnson was a super 2 I believe coming into this year. So he has 3 more arbitration years coming up. If he wins the batting title this year then he's going to start getting expensive fast. And at that point he would be a perfect trade high candidate like we did with Prado.
 
Johnson is not a solid glove. Amazing how hitting well makes someones love look better.

His offensive numbers for his career arent terroble but look at what parks hes played in.

If someone wants to give up any sort of value (productive player or B prospect) you gotta jump on it. Hes gonna come crashing down.

He has a career 109 wrc+ so that eliminates any park effects you think he's had. And he's a much better hitter on the road for his career too. He is a good hitter. Not this good obviously but I believe he can be a high 280's to low 300's hitter for a few more years thanks to his awesome LD%. Keep him while he's in expensive and you try to look for other options then sell high on him.
 
I don't think anyone is really rushing to get rid of him. They are a) trying to tempter peoples expectations of him in the future and b) are ok keeping him at third for at least one more year and maybe through 2015 while he's a fairly inexpensive player. Johnson was a super 2 I believe coming into this year. So he has 3 more arbitration years coming up. If he wins the batting title this year then he's going to start getting expensive fast. And at that point he would be a perfect trade high candidate like we did with Prado.

That's the way I look at it. I would add that Johnson's future here will be partly driven by how Salcedo and our other infield prospects develop.
 
That's the way I look at it. I would add that Johnson's future here will be partly driven by how Salcedo and our other infield prospects develop.

Thats why I think holding onto Johnson for another year is important.
 
He has a career 109 wrc+ so that eliminates any park effects you think he's had. And he's a much better hitter on the road for his career too. He is a good hitter. Not this good obviously but I believe he can be a high 280's to low 300's hitter for a few more years thanks to his awesome LD%. Keep him while he's in expensive and you try to look for other options then sell high on him.

Yeah, I don't get it. Guy has always hit reasonably well and then you watch him hit and you understand why. Beautiful swing and make solid contact often. He even has a better batting eye than his BB%/K% indicate. He just likes to swing.
 
He has a career 109 wrc+ so that eliminates any park effects you think he's had. And he's a much better hitter on the road for his career too. He is a good hitter. Not this good obviously but I believe he can be a high 280's to low 300's hitter for a few more years thanks to his awesome LD%. Keep him while he's in expensive and you try to look for other options then sell high on him.

Some regression is inevitable, but the question is how much. My feeling is Johnson will settle at about .300 batting average and .330 OBP. That's not bad, but not elite. And when you look at the whole package--speed, power, defense--it probably translates into a third baseman who is not in the top half of major league regulars at the position. For now I'm enjoying what Johnson is doing and I'm happy for him. But it is important to have a realistic view of what to expect from him going forward.
 
Btw I like what Fredi has done with our current lineup and one of the things I especially like is Johnson hitting ahead of Uggla. I think that's going to help the team a lot the rest of the way.
 
Hea a lot like Laroche. Good enough to start on some teams but for a great team, you would always be looking for an upgrade.
 
Current a .430 BABIP. It's so flukey it's amazing. I hope most fans know how to put that in perspective. If Johnson is on the team next season(sell high Wren) please don't ***** about him not "hitting" like he has this season. You'll be asking for the impossible...unless of course you are under the impression he's become the greatest hitter known to human existence...

I doubt anyone thinks he will be this good but around a 270/280 average is fair.
 
His defense is hardly great but people act like he's the worst defender in baseball.

He's decent defensively, not great, not terrible, but he's better than the haters think.
 
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