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Dallas has as good of a shot as any of the top teams in the league to win the title next year. I think they are going to have 2 running backs that get over 900 yards next year. If they are smart they will just cycle guys in and out of there. That offensive line is so elite the offense will be unstoppable. If the defense can hold teams under 21 points consistently they will win 13 games next year and get a first round bye.
 
thethe said:
Dallas has as good of a shot as any of the top teams in the league to win the title next year. I think they are going to have 2 running backs that get over 900 yards next year. If they are smart they will just cycle guys in and out of there. That offensive line is so elite the offense will be unstoppable. If the defense can hold teams under 21 points consistently they will win 13 games next year and get a first round bye.
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That's very possible. I still think Seattle and Green Bay are clear favorites in the NFC as well, but it wouldn't shock me if Dallas or Arizona (if Palmer comes back) won more games.
 
You just can never tell in the NFL. Its such a year to year thing (see SF was a lock for title game last year) I mean, all it takes is an OL injury and Romo regression and they are a .500 team. On paper, I think GB has the best squad and Seattle and Dallas are up there, but like I said, you just don't know. Philly could be good and the Giants offense at least scares me.
 
gilesfan said:
You just can never tell in the NFL. Its such a year to year thing (see SF was a lock for title game last year) I mean, all it takes is an OL injury and Romo regression and they are a .500 team. On paper, I think GB has the best squad and Seattle and Dallas are up there, but like I said, you just don't know. Philly could be good and the Giants offense at least scares me.
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I could even see the Saints winning 12 games. Their defense is primed for a bounce back.
 
chop2chip said:
I could even see the Saints winning 12 games. Their defense is primed for a bounce back.
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Football outsiders has us and them at 10-6 in our division.

I don't see 12, as there D has a long way to go. I doubt they are able to score as much either. So the D MUST be better for just status quo.
 
gilesfan said:
You just can never tell in the NFL. Its such a year to year thing (see SF was a lock for title game last year) I mean, all it takes is an OL injury and Romo regression and they are a .500 team. On paper, I think GB has the best squad and Seattle and Dallas are up there, but like I said, you just don't know. Philly could be good and the Giants offense at least scares me.
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Tapate50 said:
Football outsiders has us and them at 10-6 in our division.

I don't see 12, as there D has a long way to go. I doubt they are able to score as much either. So the D MUST be better for just status quo.
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This season isn't based off last season. They have more talent on defense, their offense should still be excellent, and they are always well coached. Hopefully that's the same formula the Falcons follow. I could see both teams winning 10 games and the South as a whole being competitive.
 
Seattle with Jimmy Graham is going to be hard to beat. You can't predict injuries, but damn, giving Russell Wilson the best red zone threat in the league is just unfair. No reason they shouldn't go 12-4 or better if Graham plays at least 13 games.
 
Carp said:
Seattle with Jimmy Graham is going to be hard to beat. You can't predict injuries, but damn, giving Russell Wilson the best red zone threat in the league is just unfair. No reason they shouldn't go 12-4 or better if Graham plays at least 13 games.
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Graham wasnt the elite pass catcher everyone thinks he is last year. Maybe he will get back there for Seattle but he is living off reputation right now. Teams are just going to do what Seattle did to Graham in the red zone and thats line up 2 defensive players in front of him and press him before he can cross the line of scrimmage. I wonder be surprised if he gets released before his contract ends.
 
cajunrevenge said:
Graham wasnt the elite pass catcher everyone thinks he is last year. Maybe he will get back there for Seattle but he is living off reputation right now. Teams are just going to do what Seattle did to Graham in the red zone and thats line up 2 defensive players in front of him and press him before he can cross the line of scrimmage. I wonder be surprised if he gets released before his contract ends.
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Graham missed 2 games and was limited in a few others. Despite that, he finished with 85 receptions and 10 TDs. 9 of those came in the red zone. Only Randall Cobb had more red zone TDs. How exactly is that "living off reputation?"

As long as he stays healthy, he will be fine and very productive. There isn't a better red zone threat in the NFL.
 
Carp said:
Graham missed 2 games and was limited in a few others. Despite that, he finished with 85 receptions and 10 TDs. 9 of those came in the red zone. Only Randall Cobb had more red zone TDs. How exactly is that "living off reputation?"

As long as he stays healthy, he will be fine and very productive. There isn't a better red zone threat in the NFL.
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As a Falcons fan, I can speak for the whole fan base that we are ecstatic that he is gone.

I'm glad to see that Saints fans didn't appreciate what they had.
 
cajunrevenge said:
Graham wasnt the elite pass catcher everyone thinks he is last year. Maybe he will get back there for Seattle but he is living off reputation right now. Teams are just going to do what Seattle did to Graham in the red zone and thats line up 2 defensive players in front of him and press him before he can cross the line of scrimmage. I wonder be surprised if he gets released before his contract ends.
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Because he was injured most of the year and played through it? Well that never happens in the NFL, lets ding him for it.

He is a stud, plain and simple.
 
It will be interesting to see how he does in Seattle, where they went on and on about how soft he is.

Graham is a pass catching TE. But, that isn't a premium position. I fully understand dealing him.
 
cajunrevenge said:
Graham is at his best when the other team is up 21 points and playing prevent defense.
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You mean not being double teamed? Then yea, most underneath players are.

You are a silly sour Saints fan. Graham made some unreal catches against Atlanta, and I would take him in a heart beat. I saw him pre-breakout in Atlanta basically play basketball with our corners and linebackers at the goal line, and he was silly good. He and Gronk are on a whole different level than everyone else.
 
It's the Heyward effect.

If a star player leaves your team, then that means your team knew before everybody else that that player was garbage and that's why they traded him.

I liked the Saints deal (although I didn't like who they used the draft pick on). But to say Graham isn't an elite tight end and that he's living off reputation is asinine and bitter.
 
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