stpeteirish
Called Up to the Major Leagues
They'll dump EY before KJ. Hopefully Cunningham plays some CF when KJ is back.
5/17/15 Braves @ Marlins
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They'll dump EY before KJ. Hopefully Cunningham plays some CF when KJ is back.
zbhargrove
Well-known member
Kris Medlen has only had 2 complete games in his entire career with 1 shutout... Alex Wood has only had one complete game in his career and zero shutouts... Teheran probably comes the closest with 4 complete games and 2 shutouts last year... but I know they were not in as close proximity. Man what an "idiotic" statement I made.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
Another possibility is to play KJ more at third. It'll sort itself out. Cunningham will cool off.
jpx7
Very Flirtatious, but Doubts What Love Is.
I don't know, I kind of think he'll hit north of .700 this season.
Braves1976
It's OVER 5,000!
This is an interesting piece on Shelby Miller: Braves' Shelby Miller using his cutter to reach new heights.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
You're setting yourself up for disappointment. At best he's a .400 hitter.
His defense won't. He needs to at the very least play LF in the 8th and 9th innings of any game that we're ahead.
yeezus
It's OVER 5,000!
Are you saying those tweets detract from almost throwing a no-hitter?
The Braves didn't win the trade because Miller almost threw a no-hitter. They won it because we got 4 years of a guy who clearly has a ton of talent and is putting it all together for one year of a guy with similar relative talent who has been taking it all apart rather than putting it together. We're appreciating Shelby as a whole. And it's fun to look back and say "wow, look at what we got."
Tapate50
Well-known member
Man stop detracting from the almost no hitter.
yeezus
It's OVER 5,000!
Miller's value, at this moment, is right up there with almost anyone's.
Heyward
<B>Voted Worst Poster <br>'13, '14, '15 (Co-Winner
Well we were told all offseason that Hart is an idiot and the new FO has no idea what the hell they're doing.
We'd have the worst offense all-time.
Heyward trade was beyond dumb.
Lot of the trades we made sucked.
Sorry that some of us cant be a little happy that Miller is pitching like a boss right now. And some of the other moves made look good as well.
No, haha. Although I see where you might have construed my comment that way.
That really wasn't what was happening when I made my original post. The 'look, I told you so' posts and predictable quips about Heyward, in general, were obscuring good discussion about what Miller had actually just accomplished.
I still say that it's dangerously foolhardy to definitively judge a trade in its infancy like many have done so far this season -- not just RE: Miller. That's not to say that Shelby isn't capable of being completely, totally, and forever awesome -- but, cool your jets.
It could just be residual superstition from today's game, but your bold claim that the Braves 'won' the trade is mortally wounded if Shelby Miller gets hurts at any point during this season.
*jumps over chalk*
yeezus
It's OVER 5,000!
Oh ok, I was really confused by that initially.
I disagree though. I think the Braves have clearly already won the trade, and of course anything is barring injury because you just can't really ever see that coming. We'd still have Shelby for four years, and we likely would have lost Heyward this off-season, anyway. Miller's value is much, much higher than Heyward's right now, and it isn't even really close. And just the fact that he's cheaper and under control means a ton.
Thank you for illustrating the **** out of my point.
Heyward
<B>Voted Worst Poster <br>'13, '14, '15 (Co-Winner
It's just a message board, why do you care what some of us have to say?
I mean, maybe -- I don't buy into the value of 'years' like you do though. I say that if the Cardinals go on to win the World Series or even make the playoffs (supposing Heyward continues to contribute menially, which I'm not willing to concede yet) the additional money, exposure, and desirability brought to the franchise is equitable to the financial value of four years of Shelby Miller on some level.
Is that likely? Probably not. But I see why teams like St. Louis make those kind of 'put us over the top' moves and it's not really this one-sided acquisition to me when I look at it that way.
I don't know what you are getting at. You quoted me and I responded.
zbhargrove
Well-known member
How was anything I said "look I told you so" when I simply said I don't remember a Braves starter going as consistently long into games? When I never even mentioned the trade? Someone is a little prickly and reading into things and assuming. You're the one detracting from his performance, not us. In fact, I have no idea why you're even mad... you're just assuming people are saying things that they clearly aren't. You just took something I said good about Shelby and basically said it was idiotic... wasn't even an over the top comment and had nothing to do with the trade. You're the one with your hair on end being ridiculously defensive.