Game of Thrones

chop2chip said:
Definitely detouring from the books...

And that's a good thing imo.

Excellent season thus far and should only get better.
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I like some of the changes. The Sansa change is excellent. But I hate the changes to Jaime and REALLY hate some of the characters being dead before their time or left out completely.
 
Dalyn said:
I like some of the changes. The Sansa change is excellent. But I hate the changes to Jaime and REALLY hate some of the characters being dead before their time or left out completely.
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As a fellow book reader, I just don't believe it was ever realistic for the show to follow the same character arcs. Mance Rayder is a prime example. He is one of my absolute favorite characters, but that would never work in the series.

I am curious about the Iron Islands though. At some point they have to recognize them more than Theon and his sister. Elsewise they are going to have some major plot innovations.
 
chop2chip said:
As a fellow book reader, I just don't believe it was ever realistic for the show to follow the same character arcs. Mance Rayder is a prime example. He is one of my absolute favorite characters, but that would never work in the series.

I am curious about the Iron Islands though. At some point they have to recognize them more than Theon and his sister. Elsewise they are going to have some major plot innovations.
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Some changes were absolutely necessary, and those are (for the most part) the ones that worked well. The pointless character assassination of Jaime (and destroying a masterful display of character growth from Martin) and just dropping plots like the Iron Islands and some others is silly. Martin is a MUCH better writer than David or Dan, and it shows more often than not when they make a change.
 
Some of these changes feel like bad fan fiction. The Ramsay and Miranda scene is a prime example. Ridiculous.
 
This season has bugged the **** out of me. The only storyline they haven't completely mangled (yet), is Arya's.

Positives with the season so far - Dragons look great. Acting and production are both still top notch, for the most part. Arya's storyline hasn't yet been altered drastically. More Bronn than the books (though I have a bad feeling about this one now). Stannis is finally showing the character growth from the books. Anything else?
 
Dalyn said:
This season has bugged the **** out of me. The only storyline they haven't completely mangled (yet), is Arya's.

Positives with the season so far - Dragons look great. Acting and production are both still top notch, for the most part. Arya's storyline hasn't yet been altered drastically. More Bronn than the books (though I have a bad feeling about this one now). Stannis is finally showing the character growth from the books. Anything else?
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Everything to do with Dorne has been awful.

I was hoping Sansa had learned a thing or two from Baelish and would manipulate Ramsey to some degree, but it doesn't allude to that much at all.
 
Tapate50 said:
Everything to do with Dorne has been awful.

I was hoping Sansa had learned a thing or two from Baelish and would manipulate Ramsey to some degree, but it doesn't allude to that much at all.
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Yeah. And that fight with the Sand Snakes was a HUGE disappointment. I just hope they don't take after their daddy too much (poison).

Loras is now another low point. He was a badass in the books (and early in the show) that they've turned into a caricature of homosexuality. So many low points this season.
 
Dalyn said:
Yeah. And that fight with the Sand Snakes was a HUGE disappointment. I just hope they don't take after their daddy too much (poison).

Loras is now another low point. He was a badass in the books (and early in the show) that they've turned into a caricature of homosexuality. So many low points this season.
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They made a point to show that Bronn(?) got nicked? That fight and everything around how they just walked into the water gardens was dumb. The whole sand snakes line has been awful. There is no development with them or Oberyn's wife.

Loras is another low point.

On the contrary, I have enjoyed Danaerys storyline and the Wall has been pretty interesting. Also liked the Stannis development....
 
Tapate50 said:
They made a point to show that Bronn(?) got nicked? That fight and everything around how they just walked into the water gardens was dumb. The whole sand snakes line has been awful. There is no development with them or Oberyn's wife.

Loras is another low point.

On the contrary, I have enjoyed Danaerys storyline and the Wall has been pretty interesting. Also liked the Stannis development....
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Yes. The Stannis development is FINALLY there. This is the Stannis we should've seen flashes of since the beginning.

And yeah...the Bronn cut is probably going to end up poisonous, and they'll have only added more Bronn for the sole reason of killing him. Complete pointless bull****. I hate that. This whole Dorne storyline would be MUCH better if they would've just stuck with the books. It would've at least made sense. Bad fan fiction. Like I said before. That's what their changes end up like more often than not.
 
Tapate50 said:
Haven't seen Sunday's episode yet, but that opinion is a lot like the books general consensus.
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I must be weird, but I genuinely loved A Dance With Dragons.

My thoughts about this season are they can't adapt the best parts of AFFC and ADWD (the iron islands, Lord Manderly, Doran's revenge game, Oldtown, Mance Rayder etc.). But they have generally done pretty well with the material they covered. The High Sparrow plot never interested me in the books, but

the show has knocked that out of the park. I haven't hated Mereen (the book version is a miserable read) and they have done a good job expediting Tyrion's journey to Dany (and thankfully omitted the pig and Penny plot).

The unforgivable aspect of this season is Dorne. I can't believe how terrible the Sand Snakes are. This season would have been better off just omitting that subplot and going with the Iron Islands, IMO.
 
Tapate50 said:
Haven't seen Sunday's episode yet, but that opinion is a lot like the books general consensus.
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I loved the book. This season is a completely different situation and its problems have nothing to do with the book. It's because of all the pointless changes and omissions.
 
That scene in the fighting pits. Daenerys straight up sees fighters dragged in with chains (slaves) and says nothing? Yeah. Right. On top of MANY errors like that this season, they've rushed nearly every plotline to the detriment of the show. By far the worst season, in my opinion, and its flaws have very little to do with the source material.
 
Dalyn said:
I loved the book. This season is a completely different situation and its problems have nothing to do with the book. It's because of all the pointless changes and omissions.
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The general trend on the books is the further it goes on, the less clear the intent or direction they seem to readers. Everyone just keeps wandering around. I felt the same. The first few were solid.
 
Tapate50 said:
The general trend on the books is the further it goes on, the less clear the intent or direction they seem to readers. Everyone just keeps wandering around. I felt the same. The first few were solid.
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I disagree completely. The problem is that people insist on thinking the series is just about the Iron Throne (about the "Game of Thrones"). It isn't. It's about A Song of Ice and Fire.
 
Krgrecw said:
I think this has been the slowest, most uninteresting season yet for GoT. Hopefully it picks up
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Agreed....the show is overrated, it has had it's moments and one great season but from the start, to this point in the series, it's meh.
 
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