Around Baseball 2015 Edition

Haters gonna hate.

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yeezus said:
Do you think going deep into games/throwing a lot of innings isn't important when designating someone as an ace? Rate stats are all that matter?
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He threw 215 innings last year (14th in baseball) in the first year they stopped babying him because of the arm injury.
 
thethe said:
He isn't one of GFs favorites. He doesn't even like the BraVes anymore. He is just trolling. I decided to troll back.
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Heyward isn't one of my favorites. He's just another ex player to me.

I guess I don't like the Braves!
 
gilesfan said:
He threw 215 innings last year (14th in baseball) in the first year they stopped babying him because of the arm injury.
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And that was good, sure. Still not really ace-like IMO. I don't think he's on a guy like Felix's level (yet), and he's an ace. If he can stay healthy, he will get there. He's really good. Pitching deep into games is extremely important to me when calling someone an ace. It's not all that matters, but IMO you need the right combo. Only a few guys fit that title. Rate stats don't make someone an ace.
 
yeezus said:
And that was good, sure. Still not really ace-like IMO. I don't think he's on a guy like Felix's level (yet), and he's an ace. If he can stay healthy, he will get there. He's really good. Pitching deep into games is extremely important to me when calling someone an ace. It's not all that matters, but IMO you need the right combo. Only a few guys fit that title. Rate stats don't make someone an ace.
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Well, if your judgment of an ace is they have to be on the level of King Felix, there aren't many aces in baseball. I can probably count them on one hand.
 
thethe said:
Btw...Harper is still doing the best hitter in baseball thing
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He's toying with teams and taking the ball out to left field lately...

But, he said Trout is the best hitter in baseball. Came from the horses mouth.
 
gilesfan said:
He's toying with teams and taking the ball out to left field lately...

But, he said Trout is the best hitter in baseball. Came from the horses mouth.
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That's the right thing to say but we all know that down deep Harper believes he is the best player in baseball. I find it hard to disagree with that right now.

That opposite field homer against Lester was stupid
 
gilesfan said:
Well, if your judgment of an ace is they have to be on the level of King Felix, there aren't many aces in baseball. I can probably count them on one hand.
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Right. I don't think there are many aces. I suppose it's semantics. But I wouldn't call Stras as good or important as Price, Kershaw, Felix, Kluber (last year), Wainwright when he was in his prime and healthy, etc.
 
gilesfan said:
He's toying with teams and taking the ball out to left field lately...

But, he said Trout is the best hitter in baseball. Came from the horses mouth.
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He is toying with the WHOLE Team? Jesus. This guy is good. A total mind**** of the whole squad. Trout could never pull that off.
 
sturg33 said:
Shouldn't there be? Rather than subjectively deciding if someone is an "ace" when you rarely see that pitcher pitch
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Maybe there should be, sure. I don't have it. I'm stating my opinion on what an ace is, and it's more than just rate stats and FIP and xFIP. I believe true aces go deep into games consistently. Stras does not do that as well as the guys who I personally consider truly elite. He bests them in some rate stats. But the elite guys goes deep into games consistently, IMO.
 
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